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Any stackable items are deleted, including commodity deeds.Account bound items are also deleted as well as house only items (granite, grass tiles etc)
If people take it seriously, I imagine it'll be like defending a champ. The open spot would be a chokepoint because it'd take too long to open a new one if you weren't there first.
Saw this come up on a house in fel. Not sure if it's a bug or for debugging purposes.
My only "complaint" would be the auto deleting of all stackable items, although I I understand why it wouldn't be feasible to have 60,000 boards drop into your backpack.
I also wonder if it would be possible to make EACH character help destroy one of the exterior emply barrels? That would keep someone from opening one "entry point" and then running 10-20 characters in at once. (I'm thinking about the fel aspect mainly).
Overall, a really good effort! I plan to do more testing tomorrow.
The timer went to minutes then seconds. So once the countdown starts you get a pretty good idea of when it will fall. No more having to camp at the house for 15 hours.
@Kyronix, Something that occurred to me after the castle test north of Minoc is that scripters will just use EJ characters as their pack animals.
The script would go:
To prevent this you would need to bar EJ characters from the area within the fence.
+1000!!!
To have a simple skill which defeats an investment of 220 skill points (100.0 Hiding + 120.0 Stealth) is, to my viewing, R-I-D-I-C-O-L-O-U-S.
And it should be addressed by the Developers.
Ultima Online gameplay, to my opinion, should be way more dependant on skills as compared to items.
Because, and we have seen it, itemization takes us nowhere.... only into an escalation of items which pregressively must be made more powerfull to maintain players interested but which then greatly enlargen the GAP in between new or returning players and older, existing players.
Therefore, when a player INVESTS skill points in a Template, this investment of points should be much valued by gameplay mechanics, way more then a simple spell of properties on an item.
At least, that is the way I see it.
And to tell it all, I need to also mention GHOST CAMS.
It is really astonishing that, to date, nothing really effective has been done to MAKE IT IMPOSSIBLE for players to use Ghost Cams to report players' activity in areas of the game.
PvPers, to my point of view, should WORK to find their targets, spend their TIME to "actively" find them and not have them served to them on a silver platter because the game mechanics permit, one way or the other, they use of countless Ghost Cams.
When a player kills another player and take this other players' belongings away, they are taking gameplay TIME away from their victim.
Whatever time that victim invested in getting those items, they are getting deprived of it.
Now, if gameplay mechanics permit this, AT THE VERY LEAST, likewise the victim had to spend their time into getting those items, the gameplay mechanics should also force, mandate, oblige the attackers to have to spend their time, actively, to search for their targets and not use convenient, BOT Ghost Cams which report a finding with a beep while they are watching TV or doing something else away from their keyboard....
I frankly do not understand why, in a game old over 20 Years now, Ghost Cams have not been taken away for good from being possible to be exploited in PvP gameplay.
The need to "punch through the Barrel" might be a problem, depending on how the Developers will code the related mechanics....
If the activity to punch through the Barrel will NOT reveal the hidden character, then players will be able to loot hidden a Felucca ruleset IDOC unless revealed, of course.
Otherwise, if the activity of mandatorily having to punch through the barrel will reveal the hidden players, well, then I foresee lots of problems, especially for the weakest players who do not have the template skills nor high end gears to be competitive.
Furthermore, to my viewing, the skill investment in 100.0 Hiding + 120.0 Stealth should never be easily defeated (reveal the hidden character) by a simple Earthquake spell....
But if the related mechanics, and I am particularly talking about Felucca ruleset, will permit older players with more advanced characters and gear, to easily kill the new/returning weaker players and thus take them out from that IDOC, well, then this would not help these 2-4 weeks players to want to stay with Ultima Online and keep paying for their UO subscription....
That is why I insist that an investment into Hiding and Stealth (be able to break through a barrel without being revealed by doing that) should be privileged over anything else, because such a mechanics could permit, to my viewing, these players who are weaker and not a match to older players, worse if organized and numerous, to still be able to grab a few things from an IDOC, yes, also a Felucca ruleset IDOC, and perhaps use those items and their worth to help them get started in the gameplay in Ultima Online.
My thinking is, dear @Bleak , that the IDOCs gameplay mechanics should be addressed to distribute whatever wealth may come from an IDOC to those who MOST need it, that is the UO poor, and NOT to those old UO players who have multiples of already everything, several Castles and what not.
If the goal is to INCREASE Ultima online players' base, then, to my humble opinion, IDOCs gameplay should be Designed in a way where the UO weakest and poorer players, YES, also in Felucca ruleset, will have a chance to at least get something from an IDOC and take it home or to their bank, if they are too poor to own a Home yet.
So, please, make chances that would make sure to allow the weak and poor of UO STILL be able to get something from an IDOC, also in Felucca ruleset, and do not make it so that IDOCs wealth will always go towards those players most advanced, most geared up, most organized in numerous Guilds.
Give to new and returning weaker players a chance to get something from IDOCs, be them Trammel or Felucca rulesets.
Thanks.
If intended, this is NOT good and should be changed.
Why not have stackable items be BROKEN UP into less heavy quantities which a character can carry ?
This way, all those resources would be available to a higher number of players who could benefit from them.
Deleting them seems to me such a waste.....
Please, do not have them delete but makem them split up, automatically, in smaller quantities which character can carry.
Thanks.
When 2 players hit the same barrel, what happens then to the content of the Barrel once it breaks open ?
Was anyone able to test this out ?
Do the barrel's content go all to the player who landed the final punch that broke the barrel ?
Or do they go to BOTH players but, in such a case, how are the contents split up among them ?
Evently ? Randomly ?
I mean, say there were 2 items in the Barrel, and 1 was a 120 Resist scroll and the other a pair of shoes, and 1 character gets the shoes and the other the 120 resist scroll, would it be possible to consider this as a fair, even split even though they each got 1 item ?
I do not see why heavy stackables need to be auto deleted when they could, instead, be auto "SPLIT UP" into smaller quantities which characters could still carry....
This way, a stack of 60,000 ingots, for example, rather then end up getting deleted, would remain in the game but, rather then go benefit 1 single player, would go to please a higher number of players....
If any and all heavy stackables (likely resources) will get deleted at IDOCs, my big worry is that this taking out from the game of such a large amount of materials and resources will FURTHER hurt crafting which already is under life support in Ultima Online, because of the impossible competition with Legendary items drops that are so much better as craftable items.
Why so ?
Because taking out of the economy, althougether, all of these stackable resources and materials auto deleting them, would obviously get their prices to surge thus making Craftable items even more expensive to make as they might be now and thus, further less appealing as compared to Legendary drop items.
So, please, rather then have stackable items auto delete because they are too heavy for 1 character to carry, make them auto split in smaller quantities which a character can carry so that more players will be able to benefit from getting them at an IDOC and all of these materials will still remain in the economy of the game thus helping to contain the pricing for Crafting and Imbuing materials.
Thanks.
The fenced area needs to be VERY enlarged, to prevent this unloading onto EJ characters (or packies) to take too short a time, thus permitting to the subscribed character to get back to work another barrel in too short a time.
If technically possible, a more permanent solution I think, could be to FLAG all items from an IDOC with a timer under which these IDOC items would simply, FLAT OUT, NOT be possible to be placed on either an EJ character or on a Pack animal of any kind. The existance of the timer still running on that item would send out an error message saying "sorry, this item cannot be transferred to this character or to this pack animal....".
The subscribed character would actually need to recall to House, Bank or a Ship, unload it, and get back to the area for more barrel punching thus giving time to other players to get some items on their own.
After that timer lapses then everything would go back to normal but until the timer is still on, the game would simply REFUSE for the item to get into an EJ backpack or into that of a pack animal.
I think that this could be effectively address any scripting issue.
Mind you, scripters could still do some scripting but at least, they would have to use multiple accounts Subscribed and thus PAID FOR which at least would bring more revenues to Ultima Online.
Oh, and something which I have not seen as brought up as of yet..... how about making Bags of Sending NOT work also on IDOC items flagged by such a timer ?
This would prevent the wealthy player with lots of Bags of Sending to ship fast items to the bank and thus beat a new or returning poor player who cannot afford them.
What do you think about this, @Bleak ?
Is it possible to see a timer be placed on all IDOCs items which would make them no placeable into EJ nd pack animals backpacks ?