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(You can see a better copy of this here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rs0XK-tzifjEAJ1MHITGWc5MhKzMG236/view?usp=sharing )
Better copy here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-L35NrLESjK2K6Y7vNgczHbMUlnMn77N/view?usp=sharing
STASH
SUPPLY
CACHE
HORDE
TROVE
These are from the spreadsheet here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17SHMAEYnwRJ1o6e_16ov9JKue0DnHi1FzHnxOt-bI8g/edit?usp=sharing
The first two tabs have the same information, just in different orientations.
If you have found mana phasing orbs, surge shields, runed sashes, or forged pardons, can you please list which theme applied to the chest where you found each item? (I think the forged pardons are unique to Assassin Supply chests, but am not sure on the rest.)
I believe only these items that have come from Artisan chests can be modified. Most recent version of publish notes say you use reforging on the necklace, but the original publish notes said all three of these items were imbuable if found in Artisan chests. So can the skull longsword or skull staff found in artisan chests be modified with reforging or do you use imbuing?
I see that, for Artisans' SUPPLY map, ONLY Essences are indicated for Ter Mur Artisans' Maps.
What about all of the rest of Imbuing Resources which a Crafter needs ??
Furthermore, do the Imbuing Resources (as well as the Mondain's Legacy ones) come as "plentiful" with this Level Artisan's Map ?
The reason for asking, is that with 5 Professions and 5 Levels of Maps for each profession, having a SINGLE Map only (Artisan's, Supply) come with much needed Crafting Resources in it, this means 1 out of 25 possible spawning Maps in order to PRECISELY get this one Artisan's "Supply" Treasure Map for this Crafters on the lookout for these Resources in order to be able to carry out their crafting Profession....
That is, what will be the "likeliness" for a Crafter to find as loot PRECISELY an Artisan's + Supply Treasure Map so as to get a sufficient provision of these much needed crafting resources ?
Either "more" Artisans' Treasure Maps (more Levels) should carry these much needed crafting Resources OR, if they will be limited to only spawn in Supply Artisans' Treasure Maps, THEN they should be spawning in quite large quantities to be really of any realistic use to crafters for their crafting needs....
The OTHER Question that I had, is in regards to Recipes in Artisans' Treasure Chests.....
I see that in Artisans' SUPPLY and CACHE Treasure Maps, "LEGACY RECIPE SCROLLS" are mentioned to spawn.
What does "Legacy" stand for ?
Are they only and exclusively the Heartwood Recipes, so to speak ?
Or are they going to be ALL Recipes, including those from Quests, from the Valley of Eodon and those which can be found in Doom as of Publish 96 (https://uo.com/wiki/ultima-online-wiki/publish-notes/publish-96/) which can spawn in Artisans' Supply and Cache Treasure Maps ?
@Kyronix , could you please give us more info on this ? Thanks !
I've asked the same questions as you about the recipe scrolls, but no answer yet.
I think we can kiss treasure hunting goodbye for getting a steady supply of essences or abyssal cloth because getting supply maps in Ter Mur won't be all that easy and you'll only use the Artisan ones. It will be easier, however, than it would have been to get stash level Artisan maps in Ter Mur. There doesn't seem to be anything in Ter Mur that gives Stash maps.
It IS their place, none other, to my opinion.....
That said, though, I am wondering why they are not to be found in ALL of the 5 Levels of Artisans' Treasure Chests as this would make it more possible to Crafters to get them as they could use anyone Artisans' Treasure Maps to find them in the Chest, not just 1 or 2 Levels....
I am also very fine to find them only in 1 or 2 Levels of the Artisans' Treasure Chests "IF" they will be found in generous amounts in this or these more limited Artisans' Treasure Chests....
But I do not see them as "fit" in any other Profession's Treasure Chest BUT the Artisans'....
That is, the higher the Level of the Artisan's Chest the higher the number of such particular and much needed to Crafters ingredients to be found in them ?
My understanding is, that what Creature spawned the old Maps, will now spawn the new Treasure Maps as per the Levels conversion...
Only, that now there is 5 Professions within which those spawning Maps will be "split up", so to speak....
Therefore, a player targeting a "specific" type of Map, say Artisans' Supply in Ter Mur, would now have to farm for how long whatever Monster in Ter Mur spawned the former Expertly and Adeptly Treasure Maps in order to get THAT particular Artisans' Supply Treasure Map ?
They will likely get Warriors', Mages', Assassins', Rangers' Supply Treasure Maps for Ter Mur, just as well.... so, their odds will be 1 in 5 to get the "specific" Supply Artisans' Treasure Map which they are looking for....
Personally, I would see it favourably if the Treasure Maps' Spawns on Creatures was, just as well, "specialized".....
That is, select 25 types of Monsters which can, individually, only spawn a specific Profession and level of Treasure Map.
This way, players seeking THAT Treasure Map will go hunt THAT particular Creature in order to get such a particular Treasure Map.....
Please think about what you're asking for.
It is what it is though, get used to it, bet it goes live first of the week with very few tweeks.
Moral of the story, be very careful what you ask for...
That is, indicate what Creatures carry what Treasure Map indicating where those Creatures belong to, that is, Trammel, Felucca, Ter Mur, Malas, Tokuno, Valley of Eodon etc.
Also, in case any of these locations is seen to have a "shortage" of Creatures spawning Treasure Maps, also, please consider increasing the number of Monsters which can spawn those Facet Treasure Maps depending on their Level....
Also, please make sure that for each level Treasure Map on a given Facet, there is "several" Creatures spawning them and not just 1 or 2 which could limit too severely the possibility to get them....
Another alternative (but I would prefer to have specific Creatures on a given Facet to spawn specific Treasure Maps for that Facet as it would be easier for players, this way, to target their wanted Hunts....) could be, to just have ALL the Treasure Maps spawning Creatures be able to just spawn a Treasure Map for the level that pertains to them, in ANY Profession and Facet....
That is, for example, have Agapite Elementals in Trammel (just to name the very first listed Creature on which Treasure Maps can be found that is on the UO Wiki page...) be able to spawn Stash Treasure Maps for Trammel, Felucca, Tokuno, Ter Mur, Malas, Valley of Eodon etc. etc. just alike .....
This is soooo much simpler and more fun...
i havent tried those maps yet
So, I've run through another 25 Stash Maps, 5 each profession, all Tokuno. This time using 4140 luck, which if UO Guide is accurate, should peg me at max luck. I think it's pointless to continue using low luck, because if luck doesn't factor into a drop, the low/high result will be the same, and if luck does factor into a drop, the low luck result will be the same or less than the high luck result. I should have realized this from the start.
Anyway:
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25 Stash: 4 SoT, 9 T-maps.
This is better than Release 1 (which was something like 1 in 92) and Release 2, but still only about a 50% chance of getting a T-map or SoT. This is a higher rate than my suggestion during Release 1, but now that I've done.....many.....Stashes, I'm iterating. With this new system there is nothing else (of value) in the Stash other than the "paper" prize (unless your doing Artisan/Mage). After doing all these Stashes, my reaction to opening yet another with no "paper" prize is basically, "Oh for .....". (And this is me! And with me knowing it's on Test!)
Suggestion:
When the RNG produces loot for the chest, if an SoT or T-map appears, excellent, but if not then force a 0.1 SoT or a T-map. Just make sure something is in the chest in addition to the Magic Equipment.
Because.....
While the Magic Equipment gives you something to look at in the chest (solving the empty chest visual) the equipment is not actually worthwhile. The "paper" prize is really the only thing of value in the Stashes (excepting Artisan - and to a degree Mage).
With all Gold chests and 4140 luck: 6 Magic items in each chest, 150 Magic Items total, every one was a Greater or Lesser Magic Item.
The Magic Equipment works for the visual but not for the substance.
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So, I say take the easy option here and just add a paper prize to every Stash. Actually, you could leave Artisan/Mage Stash alone and just force a "paper" prize into every Assassin/Ranger/Warrior Stash. You're not going to flood the SoT market using 0.1's, or overload us on t-maps (5 professions to do now!).
Here is the new template I have been using to solo Trammel and Malas trove chests this weekend.
Magery 120
Evaluate Intelligence 120
Inscription 100
Meditation 80
Cartography 100
Lock picking 100
Remove Trap 100
SDI from jewelry: 43
SDI from slayer spell books: 25, 27, and 29
SDI from non-slayer spell book: 49
The trove loot has been nothing to get too excited about so far. A few nice pieces but most of items would get turned in for the cleanup points.
At the moment the artisan supply chests in Malas hold more interest for me.
Some "quirks and features" of Release 3
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Mongbats and Greater Mongbats spawning for Tokuno Stash maps are not flagged as Guardians and so do not have to be killed to LP/RT the chest.
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All gem piles in Tokuno Stashes are 7, 9, or 11. For some reason, people who bury treasure in Tokuno Stashes just don't put gems in piles of 8 or 10. This was also true during Release 2.
Oddly enough, during Release 2, and I'm guessing to this day, all gems in Tokuno Supply chests were piled into groups of 12, 14, or 16, all gems in Tokuno Caches were in piles of 17, 19, or 21, all gems in Tokuno Hoards were in piles of 22 or 24, and all gems in Tokuno Troves were in piles of 27 or 29.
Tokunons(?) burying treasure seem strangely obsessed with keeping gem piles in perfect even/odd quantities correlating to the size of the treasure.
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None of the 9 weapons found in Tokuno Mage Stashes had spell channeling, making them worthless for a Mage, yet great for a Mace Fighter.
Maybe 33% of weapons in Mage chests should be guaranteed SC, 33% guaranteed no SC, and 33% up to RNG? Just so that Mages could get weapons from a Mage Chest while making sure Warriors retained a good supply of wooden sticks to beat things with? (And without cluttering up the Warrior chests with staves and crooks and stuff.)
The above guarantees (or whatever %'s) could also be applied to Bone armor in Malas Mage chests (as of Release 2 at least). It would be nice to see some portion of Bone Armor guaranteed to spawn with Mage Armor so Mage's could use it (since it came from a Mage chest), while still giving Warriors the chance to find some as well. (And again without cluttering up the Warrior Chest. -Legendary Dragon Armor- ooooh.)
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I have broken the Stash (as of Release 2) and Supply (as of today) pillars in Tokuno. Both say I cannot get another item at this time.
I believe this means I have tested too many maps.
Cheers MissE