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There are long term players with a sincere interest in seeing Siege succeed, that are also voting for this. Your No reply is no different than the Yes replies you're preaching about.
Please make the Grizzled Mare a 5 slot mount, it's incredibly rare and deserves it. Some of us have been waiting a long time for this simple addition.
The PVP which spills now on Siege ... are mainly the guys, who are running for the fast wins. - And then starting the same in "gen chat" conversation they already do on other shards.
One of the reasons they didn´t do that in the past is.. They need to work on Siege for the armor. And there is no fast win.
I prefer to have not the VvV arties...
Also lol@Hoffs for posting on GIL forums claiming i should be banned for the same reason. Nothing banable about making a forum account named after your character(who by the way is probably older than the fake chargar you recruited). If you weren't an older male pretending to be a female, your sense of entitlement would have me believe you were a millennial
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That's actually a pretty good point. Never looked at it like that, but if they stay as-original then the actual character that needs them is forced to farm them. Meaning -- you can't just sit there hiding all day stealing sigs to suit your whole guild with arties
These items aren't about destroying/altering/creating a market. They were added to give the individual a personal reward/advantage for partaking in the risky VvV system, earning points by taking altars in towns, and being orange to anybody else also partaking. Risk Vs. Reward.
As of now on Siege there is not much reason to go VvV, and it is largely ignored. This would change that, and by making items usable by the individual only, it will ensure that players will need to continue to do towns, rather than relying on buying one of the thousands that will be flooding the market, available on vendors.
This is not about markets, or making these items easy to get, it is about improving/creating an experience for a dead/dying/ignored shard and playerbase.
Sincerely,
Lord Ol'Rac Nnod
Duke O' UWSP and Earl O' Britain
Do you remember VmP? We'd roll around 12 deep to the solen hives and kill newbs / dryloot them. That's why I fell in love with UO. If you don't like that playstyle conflicting with yours, then you are on the wrong shard because that's specifically exclusive to Siege.
All VvV arties are, are base pieces for suits. Like, I would use maybe 3, then imbue the rest. That scares you.
If it makes you feel any safer from being "abused" by PvPers, understand that VvV towns are going to be a primary focus for those sorts of players, so you can go ahead and calm down.
Hmm no idea how you got that out of what I said. You were the one who said "Siege should have same rules as every shard" I agree, it should have the same rules. One of which is if you are in FELUCCA on prodo shards ONLY the the current active VVV town makes you attackable. If you are in FEL Minoc which is currently the VVV town then being in VVV only makes you attackable to other players if you are in Minoc. You are not attackable in FEL Ocllo etc. That is how VVV works in Fel on prodo.
To get the 'rewards' you have to do the VVV town so all the risk is there. No possible way to get the points to get the rewards UNLESS you are in the VVV town where there is the risk.
Because Siege is a pure FEL ruleset it should not mean that VVV runs differently.
I won't VVV because of this fact. I would if it was just the town that was currently active as I could pick and choose my times to participate. Because it isn't, I don't. Not because I don't want to VVV but because I don't want to be attackable all the time IN TOWN as most of what I do is not pvp related.
Not everyone on Siege is a pvp'er and the shard would be pretty sorry if it was. I run Coco's, my girls pvm to provide the stuff to sell. Lots of which provide the pvp community with stuff they need and can't be bothered getting themselves. Every time I leave town I run the risk of being attacked and looted, that is siege. Don't give me drivel about wanting rewards with no risk, I risk every time I step out of town. I ping 280ms to this shard (live in Au with a crap internet connection) and I manage ok with pvm. I don't pvp as it is impossible, not that I am inclined anyways :P. I have been on this shard for about 17mths and never killed anyone. I didn't come here to pvp I came to run shop.
Seems to me the pvp'ers want all the rewards for cheap (ie vvv points) without having to spend Hour upon Hour doing pvm to get the high end drops. You want that crimmy etc but don't want to do the pvm to get it.
I get that, I understand you think re equipping should be easy and that it would encourage people to come to siege to pvp, it probably would, however it is a two way street, for you to get the artis via vvv then it puts non pvp'ers out of business. No pvper is gonna buy stuff that they can get for vvv points. Don't forget you can earn vvv points just by being in the vvv area without so much as killing a fly, takes a bit longer but it is doable. That way not only do pvp'ers get all the nice items for cheap vvv points they then use them to kill the non pvp'ers who then get dry looted and don't have to put in the grind time waiting for elusive drops to re-equip.
I understand both arguments. I don't think it is an easy thing to solve. I am allied with a bunch of ppl who also want vvv artis, so in the end what will be will be. Ultimately I don't really care as due to my ping I only wear one blessed item and the rest of the stuff my girls wear I can replace for 0 cost. Doesn't mean it isn't upsetting getting dry looted, it is. But I don't see the point in wearing anything 'good' as I am an easy target so there isn't any point to it.
If the artis were tradeable I would certainly have no problem with them, if they were able to be looted and stolen and worn , no problem. It would still kill the market for high end stuff but at least provide some come back for the losses and be useable by the guild/person that killed you. But it would generally kill ALL reason to do any high end content where the best drop was a vvv arti.
No vvv artis caters to the non pvp crowd, having vvv artis goes the opposite way and caters just to the pvp crowd. You can't use the argument that anyone can get the artis if they vvv, as the opposite argument works just as well that if you want the artis then get them as drops like everyone else. By you getting the vvv artis for points you destroy the need for the non pvp crowd to bother getting anything or even farm for those high end items. Swings and round-a-bouts, but you can't say that getting them would have no flow on effect to the non vvv crowd, it does.
Personally I would prefer it that you could 'insure' your armor and if killed in the field the pvp'er would get 100k insurance for each kill. (if 2 or more ppl were involved in the kill that that 100k be split according to dmg) Irrespective of if you were naked when killed or was wearing a nice suit. If you didn't have 100k in your bank to cover the insurance then you lose your stuff etc. At least then there wouldn't need to be this constant need to re-equip unless you had 0 gold in the bank. Once you had your good pvp suit you could retain it and pvp would become about aiming to kill for the 100k per kill. That ain't gonna happen tho.
Anyways, whatever comes in should be 'right' as there will be NO tweaking later on, my experience with BS is once something is in you better like it as a tweak will take years and years to come.
Cheers MissE
Please make the Grizzled Mare a 5 slot mount, it's incredibly rare and deserves it. Some of us have been waiting a long time for this simple addition.
Critical, we crossed communications. I didn't say I was scared or worried. I played many years in an ANTI PK guild back in the day on Siege. I know what to expect, so it doesn't bother me whatsoever. I was merely trying to convey what may be some of the thoughts of the ones that tend to get labeled as "scared" might be. Each 'side of the argument' has views flavored by how they play - or want to play. Siege is the only 'real world' shard in existence - that's why I am here and not on a prodo shard. I'd guess it's the same for many others as well. We all have to exist in the world... and the reality is - neither side is going to 'have it their way'. SO it has to be a blend of play or this place will become the 'ghost town' everyone says it is becoming. Once it's no longer fun for an individual - PvPr, Tamer, PvMr, crafter.. they're going to leave. No one wants that. And this world is too small to think that what I do, or say - and that goes for every player on the shard - doesn't affect at least one other person. Most likely there are ripple effects which aren't evident until sometime later. I'm just a player here, I want to make a positive impact. No matter how the vote goes I'm here. I'll play the game however it shakes out, and when it gets to the point it's more effort to log in than do something else - it'll be time to move on.
In the past, years ago, I voted no but time have changed since then, you can now get much better suits than before Imbuing, reforging and new magic loot.
It is very hard for new PvP'ers to make it on Siege, I have seen so many PvP guilds give up
I belive we need VvV artifacts on Siege and this time my vote is YES
The reasons that made me vote no years ago, are gone now. There will not be as much imbalance between a VvV and a non VvV in PvP as there was in the past. Most imbalance will be in the PvP skills, gear do not make a great PvP'er if you do not know how to PvP.
I'm tired of crafting PvP gear for my customers, because of the pain of adding resist to the suits, I would like to have time for something else, when I login.
It's time to move forward as we can't move back to before AoS, where we had lots of PvP om Siege and the shard was active.
That is not how VvV works on prodo. If you're VvV you are freely attackable anywhere in Felucca. It does not matter which town is active, if you are VvV, you are OJ anywhere in Fel. Have you ever even used the VvV feature in Ultima?
This is why we can't have nice things.
OK here is one scared cat, rushes over to Sonoma while I am filling a spell book and shouts this false statement off. You cannot register here if you have already done so if all your game accounts are linked to your master account. If you do not believe me ask my wife she stilled pissed that she has not able to say her piece or report a bug/problem.
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So why should Dev's have faith that any poll would be close to being what the people of the shard really wants? Why do some people feel they have to 'win' at any cost?
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