VvV Item Abuse By Non-VvV Participating Characters
VvV items are being abused in Trammel similar to the old faction gear. Players that have no intention of PVP-ing nor leaving Trammel are able to claim 4 artifacts for free without ever doing anything in the VvV system. These artifacts last a VERY long time despite having the 'Antique' property and are more powerful than their original counterparts. This goes against the spirit of these items and devalues a lot of bosses/content in the game.
I propose two easy changes:
What's my incentive to get a real Ornament of the Magician? Crystalline Ring? Crimson Cincture? Primer? Etc.
I propose two easy changes:
- No VvV points are given to new characters/guilds joining VvV
- All VvV artifacts receive an additional "Cannot Be Repaired" tag
What's my incentive to get a real Ornament of the Magician? Crystalline Ring? Crimson Cincture? Primer? Etc.
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That's odd because VvV arties are character bound. No other character can wear them, ever so there is no market to ruin.
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When you rejoin you only get 500 points so there is a little drawback. But for the most part I do agree.
I think VvV artifacts should be left alone while legacy artifacts receive an updated makeover to remotely resemble the quality of loot available.
I would suggest one more easy change @Mesanna ; @Bleak @Kyronix
VvV artifacts either cannot be equipped in Trammel or provide no stats in Trammel.
Again, they devalue content considerably. If that's the goal, why not just hand out all artifacts for free while we're at it?
Please consider.
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unless spawing or farming every single day they basically last forever.
if crimsons were meant to be like a worthless, dropped every single time, maybe multiple times per boss id be ok with the vvv versions. Whats the point of doing dreadhorn, shimmering effusion, etc if i can get a better version of the item for free?
as it is now, the vvv artifacts eliminate the need to do game content.
Now many might say "but pvp is game content and it lets players get in the game faster". Yes, i agree with that. But pvp is only available in Fel.
Simple fix - make vvv arties fall off and not be equipable in tram.
The faction versions were created at a time when gearing was much harder, and about 10 times more expensive if you consider inflation. so there was more of a need for a little stat boost.
now with legendaries, and abundance of cheap, easy to get arties from cleanup points, crafting, doom revamp, crafting etc thats far from the case any more. the faction / vvv stats have outworn their purpose.
Except on Siege, where its still hard to gear. and its the only shard where you cant get them. again, the opposite of what you would rationally think would be the case.
I think what you meant is it's completely different
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theres many factors that go into how long it lasts, but for pvm, after years of using the stuff ive calculated that for my sampire at least the stuff will last about 300 hours play time if properly repaired. Thats pvm, "in combat" often, but not 100 percent of the time like if you were training skills. for pvp it basically lasts forever since most pvp battles are brief compared to login time.
thats more than enough time for me and for the average player to have no reason to use the real, less powerful versions.
You go to event , you attack boss, take dmg and after 3 or 4 events, you repair.
This vvv equipments, if you know how to really play the game, will last forever.
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I play in Felucca, PvP and VvV.
I don't VvV for these rewards, the Antique tag makes them useless, they burn down in seconds.
I will not wear any VvV items, they need a buff, and definitely getting rid of the Antique tag.
I don't think any actual player would use VvV items - notice the above example, the player only plays EM events... When he talks about really playing the game, he means Banksitting.
So whilst I disagree that VvV items are any use to the actual guys who want to use them, I can see maybe they are abused.
Ban them from Trammel? Fine.
Zero stats for VVV gear in trammel would be an excellent fix @Kyronix ;
Especially with the destruction of Blackthorns artifacts it would be a great way to encourage people to actually do the content
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I've already stated I PvP, VvV and will not use the items. I don't care if you think they are better because they have better stats. They wear down too fast, and I actually want to play the game, ie PvP, rather than keep worrying about the state of my gear all the time.
So the items are pointless, for the players who would actually want to earn them and use them for the right reasons.
I've just made another thread, where I mention my IDOC PvP for around 4 hours in total nonstop last night. It was intense, at no point during that, do I want to be thinking about my gear. That was just 1 fight... I fight all the time.
But to agree with you on this thread topic, though maybe for completely different reasons - ban them from Trammel, to stop other types of abuse you mention - sure.