Could someone on the Dev team give us a direct answer about future development of the EC?
Reading through the patch notes for Pub 103, it gives the impression that you have completely abandoned development of the EC.
The EC is filled with bugs, some existent for an extended time, with no mention of addressing them. Now you are adding work already completed for the EC to the CC, along with new features that are CC exclusive.
If you have decided to develop for the CC only, that's fine, it's your game. It would just be nice to know what the future direction of the game is going to be.
Many developers now provide roadmaps, over-arching goals with timelines, both to excite the segment of the audience they are targeting, and to prevent the frustration and resentment inherent in mis-leading or teasing along customers (both current and potential).
As a long term customer, it would be nice to have some direct honest answers.
Thank you and good luck.
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All I hear from EC users is "man, I can't do the CC anymore, it sux, EC is so much better!"
So they are catching us CC users up to where yall are...finally.
don't fuss
for classic client it reads regarding dress:
”Item slots which are already occupied will be ignored.“
This is brilliant.
however uder enhanced client there’s no such update.
I hope this doesn’t mean the EC will retain its advantage for being able to dress an already occupied slot.
Will require testing.
I am very very impressed with the classic client updates, they made it very fair so dexxers no longer need to use EC to compete as you can arm the same way in CC now. Very impressed with the consumables macros.
Christmas has come early, I can’t beleive how many good changes there are.
I've read those changes, and I'm absolutely stunned.
Amazed.
Wow.
At bloody last.
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I really like the weapon arming options. Is it possible to increase the number of recordable weapon sets to 5 or 6? That would be very helpful. Often times 4 weapons are not enough.
Except it can be done in CC as we are beginning to see. Script users/private shards have been showing us for a long time what CC is capable of.
CC has been artificially held back all this time, deliberately to get people into EC.
But as Uriah has said, if EC was better, we would have all gone there.
I bet you find, people will flock to CC way faster than they do to EC, I know people uninstalling EC in droves already. They were forced there, to have a worse playing experience, just for a few ingame macros, or suchlike, that could have been built into CC.
CC still is super laggy and no scripters or any private shards were able to fix that.
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I'm a big fan of the EC and using it for years. Lately it always gets the short end, like why is there no auto open corpse for both clients?
It's sad...
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And we laugh everytime we see your hiryu graphics, etc etc.
And 3rd party apps? We all laugh when yall bring that up, cause we know the majority of yall dont use the EC, You use Pinco's.
Yes, there are some bugs in EC I would like to see fixed - however I don't suffer from all those others mention and I wonder if that's because I don't use Pinco's. I find the default ui perfectly adequate for my needs and have no reason to add that rather substantial package to my pc.
As to the recent additions to CC - here's my guess/assumption. If the team can add to the client the functionality of UO Assist, then Tugsoft can stop supporting a program he has long ago stopped using himself and probably finds a burden he can well do without and Broadsword/EA may be able to totally outlaw all 3rd party programs, possibly even making it that none of them can connect. Something much harder to do when there is one approved that has to be allowed access.
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My post was in response to Uriah who believed you can use Pinco's without the EC.
Please make the Grizzled Mare a 5 slot mount, it's incredibly rare and deserves it. Some of us have been waiting a long time for this simple addition.
I for one am very happy for the CC changes in this patch, as it means those that like the CC are getting a better experience. I am not bitter or upset that CC got updates and the EC didn't. Maybe that's all Bleak had time to work on this patch. I can't imagine how difficult it must be to unravel the ancient code of the CC without breaking something else.
To those of you saying EC players are hypocrites for saying CC users can't play without 3rd party addons and then citing Pinco's. Well the EC was designed to support UI Mods (which is what Pinco's is, a UI mod, not a 3rd party program). Pinco's cannot do anything the client does not want it to do, unlike certain 3rd party CC programs.
To those of you that say "just delete the EC" or "just delete the CC", you really need to get over yourselves and realize that other people with different preferences play the game. If you just "delete" either client, you will lose a large portion of the playerbase. If they were to remove the EC suddenly and only support the CC, I know I would personally stop playing. I simply cannot play on the CC, it is way too clunky for me. Just like some of you cannot play on the EC because the 3d effect makes you dizzy, etc.
I've met many returning players that have said the EC has enabled them to return to the game. They have played other games with more modern interfaces, and they wanted to return to UO, but had a hard time with the CC again. The EC has provided a better transition for them to come back to the game.
Stop turning this into an EC vs CC battle, and instead just be happy the Devs are trying to improve the game experience where they can, even if it doesn't directly benefit you.
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I am happy for any improvement in CC the same way I'm happy for some one I barely know telling me they are expecting. Great, happy for them but really don't care.
What I object to is when the client I use is hobbled to maintain parity with the other. A loooong requested fix that is finally in 103 is the ability to use locked down BOD books. If they could have fixed this long ago in just one of the clients but not the other, would it have been released then?
They just changed the dress macro in EC, a minor change but still annoying because according to Kyronix "This is to increase parity between the functionality between both clients as well as maintain balance." If he had said it was just being done to fix an cheat I wouldn't complain.
Finally I don't care
- what client you prefer
- what improvements they add to your client
- If your client has features mine doesn't (if they matter that much to me I would switch)
I am happy to see Kyronix and the rest of Broadsword team make any improvements. I just wish they wouldn't limit themselves with the question "can it be done in both clients"Didn't mean to help turn this into a CC EC fight, can't stop myself sometimes. (ever).
Blame the Jelly Beans.
But back to topic I was giving my opinion on why the answer to the question "Could someone on the Dev team give us a direct answer about future development of the EC?" is no