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Attacking Matriarch but Not getting a Drop

azuldemogoguazuldemogogu Posts: 104
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Two times in a row, the death of the matriarch has failed to reward me a drop. I'm using one of my weaker characters. He is a basic GM mage but I am working on archery. I do have a reptile slaying talisman for my bow but my spells are just ordinary. 

I know I have arrived late to the fight with other characters and did like one attack before the matriarch died and it still rewarded me then. 

However, this GM mage has done two battles and I know I have hit with several energy bolts and arrows. I don't do tons of damage plus I am getting attacked and fighting the mobs and healing people and now twice I have not received a drop.

I'm wondering if I need to put in a ticket or if this is normal. Does any one know exactly what constitutes getting the a reward satchel?

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  • keven2002keven2002 Posts: 2,757
    What shard? Is the account you speak of EJ? 

    If you are doing a lower pop shard; you might need to "do more" vs if you are on ATL where a few hits/heals gets you credit. Also, I think I saw someone else mention EJ's cannot get a reward so if the account is EJ that might be the reason.
  • RockoRocko Posts: 292
    I have done a low pop server where I hit the matriarch once and still get a drop.  

    Maybe pull some health bars and heal through the fight.
    Former content creator for UO Stratics.
  • LokeaLokea Posts: 340
    Rocko said:
    I have done a low pop server where I hit the matriarch once and still get a drop.  

    Maybe pull some health bars and heal through the fight.
    This.  Healing always gets me drops. O matter the shard.
  • azuldemogoguazuldemogogu Posts: 104
    Atlantic and it is a paid account. 

    I did the matriarch again and got a drop so it is working. Just twice in a row I got stiffed. 

    I'm focusing more on the heals and the pets doing most of the damage. Not sure if healing the pets that are doing most of the fighting helps.
  • RockoRocko Posts: 292
    In my experience healing oneself does not make a difference.  
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  • usernameusername Posts: 1,210
    Better question, what client? There's your answer
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  • RockoRocko Posts: 292
    username said:
    Better question, what client? There's your answer
    EC
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  • PawainPawain Posts: 11,688
    Yes since gargs don't do well there, they converted to heal bots.  I have no clue if just healing gets a drop.  But its convenient for the archers and melee that are near.  The ones by me heal my pets.

    There is a small chance that you wont get a drop if you get minimum points.  I can put a pet on in the last stage if I am close enough to allow the pet to get a bite,Ill get a drop.  I probably take damage and die doing that so dying also gets you points toward the bag.
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  • Victim_Of_SiegeVictim_Of_Siege Posts: 2,595
    Pawain said:
    Yes since gargs don't do well there, they converted to heal bots.  I have no clue if just healing gets a drop.  But its convenient for the archers and melee that are near.  The ones by me heal my pets.

    There is a small chance that you wont get a drop if you get minimum points.  I can put a pet on in the last stage if I am close enough to allow the pet to get a bite,Ill get a drop.  I probably take damage and die doing that so dying also gets you points toward the bag.
    Healing Pets will get you a drop, but only other's pets. You do not get credit for healing yourself or your pet in my experience. I will pull bars of pets and find the one being hit the most and keep healing it with a spell or two in between. I haven't missed a drop yet.
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  • PawainPawain Posts: 11,688
    Yes, that's by design also ressing and healing them after doesn't count.  A way to make you heal others and play together.  Damage taken helps new players get points.  I think it is a good design. Atlantic is laggy, the Matriarch is only red for a few seconds.  The first few times a player does it, they don't know how to maneuver, My toons can barely move on Atl. I don't see how archers can stay alive because of the lag.

    A player can walk in take damage, get killed and get a drop.  That player has the same chance at getting the mature egg as every other player. 

    This is based on the NL drop system.  It gives all players the same chance to get the drop. A certain old guy has asked for that for years. The more you do the more chances you get.  It is not based on the old top damager system.  Its not based on I played 5 mins last week I should get a drop today. 
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  • Victim_Of_SiegeVictim_Of_Siege Posts: 2,595
    Pawain said:
    Yes, that's by design also ressing and healing them after doesn't count.  A way to make you heal others and play together.  Damage taken helps new players get points.  I think it is a good design. Atlantic is laggy, the Matriarch is only red for a few seconds.  The first few times a player does it, they don't know how to maneuver, My toons can barely move on Atl. I don't see how archers can stay alive because of the lag.

    A player can walk in take damage, get killed and get a drop.  That player has the same chance at getting the mature egg as every other player. 

    This is based on the NL drop system.  It gives all players the same chance to get the drop. A certain old guy has asked for that for years. The more you do the more chances you get.  It is not based on the old top damager system.  Its not based on I played 5 mins last week I should get a drop today. 
    Yep, That NL System is nice, and they tweaked it out over the season. I could run in last minute, heal a battered player/pet and get a drop. and it seemed like a weekly cycle as well, If I got a drop it'd be bit until i'd get something besides an EQ Scroll (lol) Overall that system works great.

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  • usernameusername Posts: 1,210
    Rocko said:
    username said:
    Better question, what client? There's your answer
    EC
    That was clearly a question for the OP that isn't receiving drops................
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  • GrimbeardGrimbeard Posts: 3,388
    BARD BUFFS SHOULD BE PASSIVE that is all 
  • azuldemogoguazuldemogogu Posts: 104
    Im on CC. 

    I hadn't missed a drop until today and I know I dealt damage. 

    Ill let you know as I find out more. I may take a couple of bouts and just test only healing and only dying.

    Thanks guys.

    I do like this system. I first found out about it during the Demon Meatballs. I could get a few hits in and get a drop. Then, the Mistas seige and I could hit the commanders pretty much 1 time and be set to get a few arties. Though, I vaguely remember this happening with them rarely. A few times I think I'd hit them a ton and then no drop. 
  • PawainPawain Posts: 11,688
    Just logged in with it in ilsh on LS.  Ran one guy it was 50% so figures I could run another.  He arrived at last stage.  Luckily pet got right on him.  Both got  a bag.

    Once you get a routine.  You will get a bag every time.
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  • keven2002keven2002 Posts: 2,757
    azuldemogogu said:
    Im on CC. 

    I hadn't missed a drop until today and I know I dealt damage. 

    Ill let you know as I find out more. I may take a couple of bouts and just test only healing and only dying.

    Thanks guys.

    I do like this system. I first found out about it during the Demon Meatballs. I could get a few hits in and get a drop. Then, the Mistas seige and I could hit the commanders pretty much 1 time and be set to get a few arties. Though, I vaguely remember this happening with them rarely. A few times I think I'd hit them a ton and then no drop. 
    There has been a time or two where my fully developed sampire hasn't gotten a bag even though I hit the matriarch. With everything going on there I just hardly ever know how much damage I'm doing so I chalked it up to not doing enough. There was once where my tamer also didn't get a drop when I was testing doing no damage but I think the couple of players I healed either weren't damaged by the matriarch or I didn't heal enough...since then I always try to get a few spells off (with the dragon slayer spellbook equipped) in addition to healing others and that has worked every time.

    It's likely something odd as to why you didn't get a drop which seems to also be your experience in Mistas (mine too). 
  • RockoRocko Posts: 292
    username said:
    Rocko said:
    username said:
    Better question, what client? There's your answer
    EC
    That was clearly a question for the OP that isn't receiving drops................
    Was it clear?  You didn't quote the OP and your post was not directly after the OP.
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  • usernameusername Posts: 1,210
    edited January 3
    Rocko said:
    username said:
    Rocko said:
    username said:
    Better question, what client? There's your answer
    EC
    That was clearly a question for the OP that isn't receiving drops................
    Was it clear?  You didn't quote the OP and your post was not directly after the OP.
    Yes, painfully obvious. Many other people are replying to the OP without quoting and no one else got confused. Plus, my post has nothing at all to do with yours. Piece it together.
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  • PawainPawain Posts: 11,688
    edited January 3
    username said:
    Rocko said:
    username said:
    Rocko said:
    username said:
    Better question, what client? There's your answer
    EC
    That was clearly a question for the OP that isn't receiving drops................
    Was it clear?  You didn't quote the OP and your post was not directly after the OP.
    Yes, painfully obvious. Many other people are replying to the OP without quoting and no one else got confused. Plus, my post has nothing at all to do with yours. Piece it together.
    OP says he uses basic CC to play in another thread.  This issue will be mute because that was the first time he fought it on Atl.  We all know you get a drop 99.5% of the time if you arrive before the boss is dead.  I just pulled in a toon on LS when it was at the last stage again, got a bag for getting the pet to bite it once.  Not many playing today so I'll bring more in as needed to kill fast so they can dig up more nests while I deco and pet train.

    OP has to get used to the content to have success, notice they just started chests and need advice on those because same issue.  
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  • PawainPawain Posts: 11,688
    edited January 6
    Did one on GL earlier while trading. Nice players. They made a gate as the nest was being finished.

    My guy had 90 magery, had to cast Blade spirits. I doubt any lasted long enough to hit the boss.

    I got a bag.
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  • AhuaAhua Posts: 114
    huh... strange, I get no lag at matriarch on atlantic, must be CPU-GPU hitching... crashes yes but they happen anytime anywhere from 1-10 times a day. My principal cause of death in game is the client just closing itself, no warning to error message, shwoop.

    But I've noticed there is a minimum amount of damage to get a drop and to get looting rights, you get the full drop when you do get looting rights. If you don't make enough DPS you end up with the "partial drop" like 2-6 blue arties.

    Took my most powerful pet to it, although it makes damage, I'm not sure his damage counts as my damage because that never worked once.

    Now I just keep my pet by me to heal me, and I mana dump with a SDI suit... luck suit clearly had no difference, and I can do full SDI without thinking about mana regen, because the window to make damage is small.

    Since I did this I always got a full drop of 10-14 blue arties, and personal looting rights... but as I've said before never any deco egg or tree or mature egg... only blue arties and skirts lol
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