DEAR DEVELOPERS..... can we please have next Year's Arc be focused on CRAFTING and Crafters ?
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They do have other chars that can go out to fight, but they prefer to play their crafter.
When they need the recipes, they purchase them with the funds they got from items they sell.
I do agree that crafters should be able to craft higher end items. But making them harder to craft, would not be in the best interest of crafters. As others have said, there is imbuing and reforging now. Not everyone knows how to do reforging. People keep telling me to look up how to do it, but when I look at those instructions it just confuses me more. It would be better if there was an in-game tutorial of how to do it.
Long ago, my very first character was a crafter. I was told to put Arms Lore on her, because it helped boost what you make. But nowadays I hear, that it doesn't matter if you have it at all. I'm not sure if that is true or not, but if its not working as intended, then it needs fixed.
We're almost all in agreement that crafting needs something.
If crafted armor were on par with high end loot it would make hunting useless. When the hunters stop, crafters will become obsolete because suits will last forever again.
No offense but your posts about whatever skill seem to circle back to wanting every skill on par with plat making high end hunters. It simply cannot be.
"including a brand new interface for mannequins that will help with equipment comparisons"
I don't think it has made it to TC yet but THANK YOU!!!!!! in advance.
is needed for armor. Gives a Resist boost. For weapons it raises damage increase which will imbued or removed in most cases to fit your needs.
I know a couple years ago I was crafting stuff with my tailor and none of the resists got over 9%.
Nice info about weapons, I have the skill to make them. I just don't know anything about that.
You want crafting easier? It's pretty basic as it is, craft some pieces, reforge it, if you don't get what you need try again. If this is too complicated then the issue may not be the skill but may be behind a monitor.
If simplification is what this game needs then I vote we change all pvm to operate like Blackthorne dungeon. Collect tokens hand them in for what you want instantly. No complicated puzzles or dungeons, no complicated peerless keying, or taking the time to travel around for these hunts.
Sound fun to your prefered play style?
I have no idea what the roof is all about and without reading into it, sounds mildly complicated but I'm not campaigning to simplify it, I don't care about it and if I did I'd read into it and test it out. Like I did with crafting. I'm sure it's simple when layed out.
Please make the Grizzled Mare a 5 slot mount, it's incredibly rare and deserves it. Some of us have been waiting a long time for this simple addition.
.... forgot to add to send that list to mesanna@broadsword.com
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Now players should take the Role of a full time Developer and work extensively on detailed and comprehensive Design Projects about the game for which they pay to play ?
I do not quite follow you.... I thought that to each one his or her own.....
Players are players, Developers are Developers or, at least, that is what I thought.....
As a player, I can notice that Crafting suffers dearly from the much better quality of dropped Loot.
Of course that, if players can get much better quality items as Loot, they won't care bothering with Crafting and crafters for their items' needs....
Ain't that obvious ?
Yet, and that is what I wanted to point out, Crafting has always been a very strong point of Ultima Online since 1997.
Then, slowly, change after change, Crafting went down a slippering slope to where it is today where, saved a few exceptions, Crafting remains pretty much unused.
You ask what changes would I like ?
As I mentioned, I would like changes that enabled Crafters to, at the very least, be able to craft items that were "on par" with looted ones...
Of course, in order to avoid turning upside down the inbalance and make crafting the wanted means for players to get items and disregard looting, I suggested that crafting for High End items was yes permitted, but made a complicated and complex endeavour requiring a steep learning process and a time consuming activity.
This, to avoid having everyone jump the Crafting bandwagon and use crafting to make their items rather then looting.
By making it a difficult process to learn and master, and time consuming to be played, it would be kept "under control", so to speak, and thus only having those players motivated at playing a Crafter as their Leading and Main character, be wanting to do it. And all other players who would not want to bother with the complexities and time investment requirements of Crafting, either keep using Loot as their source at High end items or, now as a new alternative to them, resort to the paid services of Crafters hired in UO to make them the high end items which they would need.
But at least, crafters could then be able to make a living in UO via an occupation that would be rewarding but consuming pretty much all of their in game time in order to be able to make those items which would be highly seeked because competitive with Looted one.
Players want items, and the better the items the more they want them.
To my viewing, there should be 2 ways for players to get to those items, either via Looting them OR via Crafting them.
And these 2 ways should be well balanced out so that neither one should be "dominant" as the players' preferred way to get those high end items.
The ONLY discriminant, to my opinion, to seek either way, should be a player's playing preference.
Those players who enjoy fighting should go fight and get these items as Loot, those other players who, instead, prefer Crafting as their MAIN preferred gameplay style, should be able to get SAME QUALITY high end items through Crafting.
And this, with a Design that would not make either way a more powerfull or "easier" way for players to get to those High End items.
Now, as in regards to "how" to get to this Design balance between these 2 ways to get to high end items, I think it should be left to the "Professionals" to decide and create, that is, the Designers who do this for a living and, therefore, are way more skilled and fit as players to conceive and Design.
At least, that is how I see it.
Have you not seen that I post examples of weapons I would like to have as drops? I give the stats but they fall on deaf ears. I told them specifically what to add to the Mannequin update.
You have to show some effort. Changing crafting affects everyone. They want someone that actually knows the game mechanics before they follow their advice. Just saying make crafting more complex and difficult and make everyone have to have a dedicated crafter or you can not craft is going to fall on deaf ears I hope.
For example here is something that I would like changed: When you select how many items to make, failed attempts count against that total. My suggested change would be that failed attempts do not count against the total. If I want 100 items for something that has a 75% success rate I should get 100 items even thou there were also 25 failed attempts along with the loss of materials for those failed attempts. The benefit to the player base is making a set number of items would be streamlined. No need for multiple restarts and keeping track of how many items are left to make.
@popps is like my wife telling me the car is broke.
What is wrong with it dear? I don't know it just doesn't work
What doesn't work? The car. OK dear.
Shakes head and goes for test drive, oh wait the car doesn't start, goes to get truck and jumper cables.
Otherwise, players would pretty much only care about Looted items (because they are better) and disregard Crafted items.... which is the cause, to my viewing, for Crafters and the Crafting Profession in Ultima Online to languish....
Now, of course, in revamping Crafting there is also the risk of then making Crafted items be preferrable over Looted items, and hence have players all flock into Crafting their high end items rather then Looting them, which would be the opposite to the current imbalance that suffers Crafting.... in that other scenario it would be Looting that would become the underdog....
So, it is necessary to enhance the Crafting powerfullness BUT, introducing an element of hindrance, a deterrant if we will, due to which players would NOT all flock to Crafting as their preferred way to obtain High End items in place of Looting them....
And I thought, that such obstacle, such deterrant, could be realized by making the Crafting of very High End items a particularly complex and difficult process to be learned and Mastered as well as requiring time to make these items (multiple processes needed....).
This way, only the players REALLY motivated in playing a Crafter would do it, with all of the other players not liking this particular gameplay just leaving it alone and use Hunting to Loot for their High End items OR, as a new possible alternative, seek the paid Services of those UO Crafters who, instead, wanted to actually put the study, effort and time investment into learning the new High End Crafting processes...
This way, it would be more balanced out, to my opinion, with BOTH ways to get to High End items being possible and, YET, none of the 2 prevailing on the other as the players' preferred way to get to High End items....
As in regards to "how" and with what particular mechanics to make this Balance possible, I think it as better to be left to the "Professionals", the Developers who do this for a living and are way more skilled at conceiving and Designing such things as compared to players....
I, and most people I know, craft suits for all my characters, usually imbued because it's more controllable. (I hate randomness) Occasionally I'll try to reforge a piece. But then I will gradually upgrade the suit with looted pieces. A process that takes me months, if not years, to complete. Most of my characters still wear a combination of looted and crafted items and I've been playing continuously for 19 years!
As things stand loot & crafted are pretty much in balance. Loot is annoyingly random, I occasionally wish reforging was a controllable as imbuing, or that imbuing had a slightly higher cap. Crafting is already so complicated that I don't attempt to make the really good items that I know are possible. I don't want it made so complicated that I can't do it at all!
I disagree on current balance. Maybe if base resists were cap and overcap like the majority of loot.
Imbuing does need a higher cap even if it's just dedicated for resists. Reforging isn't bad if you have all the guides handy. The main thing that has steered me away from crafting is the requirement to have a forged metal tool or face a 99% chance at breaking your armor on enhancing.
I don't know about the rest of you but for myself I play UO to relax. I have made some very nice high end luck suits that cost a fortune and some nice getting started suits that all my toons can survive with till each part can be replaced by looted pieces and those were not cheap. I also have a Tamer that has used the pet training to train pets for my play style, I do not use Power Scrolls so they are not the uber max pets that some have made but that system is somewhat complicated but still workable.
Bottom line is if UO becomes much more complicated it will become to much like work and no I do not want to WORK at playing a game.
KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID and ENJOYABLE
KISS+E
Well, the speed of that "updating" process much depends, both on the time to play of the player, and on their wealth.....
There is quite a lot of players with multiple Platinums in their UO Bank and they can easily get whatever High End looted item they need or want very fast just by buying it from other who had the drop.... so, for some players that updating process can take very, very little time.....
I also play to relax. But I also play to compete. Not only against others but to challenge myself as well. My biggest challenge/addiction is growing my bank balance. I do love the taming changes.
I fully agree with the work statement. You absolutely have to bookmark these guides or you'd be lost trying to remember everything. ONE somewhat simple imbued piece can take over an hour from idea to paper to reading guides to crafting and enhancing. I spent days trying to reforge a perfect piece and gave up.
Yes Popps, some people have plats. That won't even finish a top tier pvp suit now. I've seen people drop a plat on 1 jewel. Given most run multiple accounts it's almost impossible to suit multiple finished characters now that can compete. I truly feel for players that don't have much time to play and very little gold.
Bottom line. Crafting needs some form of update to compete with loot. Not exactly more complicated either.
Your struggle with crafting is your problem, it isn't a complicated system unless you think grouped randomization is beyond comprehension.
It's basic, your perception of me is basic, as is your posting.
If you are as wise as you try to make yourself out to be how about you and popps get together and do what @Rorschach suggested.
You do understand that there is a big difference between not knowing how to do something and knowing how to do something and choosing not to do it because it is not worth the effort, but you think because someone chooses not to do something means they do not know how to do it just proves my point that you are clueless.
Can't wait to see your and popps proposal.
Trying to baffle people with endless drivel and bs does not mean you know squat.