altering quiver of infinity

Max_Blackoak

when you turn a quiver of infinity into gargish wing armor it will lose the 10% damage modifier and only keep the 20% lower ammo cost (which makes no sense because gargoyles can't use archery and throwing doesn't require ammo).

expected result: for the wing armor to get the 10% damage modifier instead of the 20% lower ammo cost

Max_Blackoak

Max_Blackoak

the same applies to the despicable quiver/unforgiven veil by the way, however in this case the lower ammo cost gets lost too along with the damage modifier:

Max_Blackoak

this issue has still not been resolved
@Kyronix @Bleak @Misk

Mervyn

It's interesting you bring this up actually,

I was asking Mariah to test to see if the Damage modifier worked on throwing weapons. As the mannequin described it as working on "ranged weapons" whereas we (compiling the magical properties page) described it as working on Archery.

So perhaps this is working as intended, maybe you don't get the damage modifier, are there ANY quivers that alter to enable modifier?

It probably is working as intended, it's a quiver for arrows.. the damage modifier doesn't work for melee weaps so..

Max_Blackoak

Why would only arrows be affected by damage modifier? Damage modifier should affect damage, not arrows and both, archery and throwing do ranged damage.

What DOES only affect arrows however is the lower ammo cost property, it thus has no use on gargoyle wing armor.

With that in mind doesn't it make much more sense to assume that instead of losing the damage modifier property altered quivers and unforgiven veils should lose the lower ammo cost property and keep the damage modifier property? It looks like the wrong property was wiped.

Mervyn

The simplest thing would be to just rename "Damage Modifier" to

"Arrow Damage modifier" or something like that.

Then it would be clear what properties on a quiver work on a non archery char.

Max_Blackoak

even simpler: do not remove damage modifier, have it apply to both ranged weapon skills and get rid of the lower ammo cost for wing armor. more logical too ;-)

Mervyn

Something tells me you play a gargoyle 

Norry

If i remember, the mods only applied to ammo from the quiver. At least the LAC

quickblade

I think they removed the damage modifier for gargoyles for  balancing purposes, you are already shooting a one handed composite bow (soul glaive), it would be too strong if they had the +10% dmg modifier on top of that

Mariah

the description we have for the property is

Increases the final damage dealt by the bow it’s used with.

If the game is looking for a bow to apply the property to and not finding one, it cannot therefore apply it.

I believe it may be necessary to @Bleak to clarify further.

Max_Blackoak

Mervyn said:

Something tells me you play a gargoyle 

not as my main but yes I do have a gargoyle also. It would be kind of hard to test many of the gargoyle related issues otherwise because you can't character copy to TC from Siege Perilous...