Evasion Timer Broken 2

Mervyn

https://forum.uo.com/discussion/3093/evasion-timer-broken#latest

At the risk of a slap on the wrist for re-opening a closed thread, it seems this has been fixed for publish 104:

"Resolved issue with Bushido Evasion cooldown not correctly starting at the end of the ability."

I initially said there was no evidence to suggest it was broken. I asked the question about how the timers in spellweaving work (didn't get a response), and so wrongly assumed the cooldown started from activation. However after actually checking spellweaving. The cooldowns do indeed start at the end of attunement and gift of renewal. So I now agree that it was bugged and am happy with the fix.

Paithan

I accept your apology.

Mervyn

Not an apology. 

Tjalle

From what I can tell it wasn´t broken so not sure why they are "fixing" it. @Bleak
I can´t find any info anywhere that mentions a 20 sec timer between finish and restart. Maybe I didn´t look hard enough...
All I found was this from Pub 46:

• Evasion can now only be activated once every 20 seconds.

http://www.uoguide.com/Publish_46

So it sounds to me like it works like it´s supposed to.

But if it was indeed broken then I guess Whispering is broken as well since the timer on that starts directly after you start it, not after it finish...

Mervyn

Nice, i will test warcry and a few more masteries too. I suspect there’s also a discrepancy with system messages too. 

Mervyn

@Bleak

As @Tjalle said, Whispering's timer also starts from activation and not from the end of the spell effect, and at 120 taming/lore we're talking about a significant 600 seconds.

(The same is true for Warcry however, this spell lasts about 10 seconds and the cooldown is 20 minutes so it's not important.)

There are a couple of discrepancies with system messages/clilocs too sorry.

Evasion (on test centre), warcry, and whispering,  when you try to cast the spell when the spell is already under effect you'll just get the standard message:

"You must wait x seconds before you can use this ability again."

Can you make it say:

"This spell is already in effect." like it does with spellweaving spells. (Then after the spell is not in effect to give the message "You must wait x seconds before you can use this ability again.")

Also with Attunement and Gift of renewal, after the spell is no longer in effect but during the cooldown we receive a message "You must wait before trying again." can you change this to

"You must wait x seconds before you can use this ability again."

The_Higgs_1

I mean if were going to fix this type of issue, then every talisman in game that has an ability (i.e. summon orc brute, summon animal type)  needs to be fixed too.  Once you pop a brute out the talisman timer starts counting down and brute stays up for 10-15 mins, it only takes 30 mins total to reset talisman to pop it again.  

Mervyn

Talisman summons are a little different, they're not a buff. But yeah that is a legit argument to make.