Anyone get Farming to produce?

TETSUJIN

Pawain said:

TETSUJIN said:

Hotei said:

Hello,

I almost posted when the seasons changed and I lost plants I'd been tending for many days, but I realized I'd not carefully read all the instructions on how farming worked. Some of the issues I experienced were "operator error". 

I do wonder though, is there some way to know when seasons are about to change? That would be very helpful. I wouldn't want to lease a plot and plant a day or two before the change is to happen only to have plants disappear because the clock ran out. That's a waste of time and gold that doesn't seem necessary or fair to deal with.

Also, it seems the mandrake and garlic are taking a lot longer than expected. I tended one batch of mandrake for 17 real world days and the plants never became harvestable. They disappeared when the season changed.

I planted a second batch of mandrake the day after the season changed. It's been 42 UO days and my mandrake is still not harvestable. Mandrake is only supposed to take 24 UO days.

Has anyone else been able to harvest Mandrake? Is anyone else having trouble with the timer on the garlic as well? I've planted more garlic, I forget the exact date of planting, but I'm very sure it's been more than 22 UO days since planting and I should be able to harvest by now.

Thanks

HI,

The plants seem to run out of water once after shard maintenance. I went to the field yesterday and today right after maintenance and all plants were out of water.

Perhaps this is the reason why plants are not growing or growth is being reverted.

Here is an image taken just after maintenance

As for the change of seasons, if you hover your mouse pointer over the Britannian calendar on the wall of a bank or other institution, you will see the number of days until the next season.


I hope this helps.

Plants go through a graphic cycle change at times other than server down. I've seen it happen at 8pm C and 11amC while I was at the field.

I plant nightshade and ginger daily in a field.  It harvests the next day.  You can harvest those dry looking plants.  Since Mandrake takes 6 days.  We should have the 24 day Mandrake root ready tomorrow.

Mine are the first 3 plots on that field.

HI,

As you say, the growth of a plant changes its graphic as the number of days in the Britannia calendar passes (some sprout in one day, others in two, etc., depending on plants)

I am telling you that I have actually confirmed that the water runs out after maintenance.

I watered the plants 5 minutes before the shard went down and logged in immediately after shard maintenance and the plants were all out of water as per my last post.

I think the key is timing of watering. If the water runs out before the plants grow, they will either not grow or will revert back to normal.

Like the manual says, "You must Keep your crops watered, or else they will not survive!."

Garlic can be harvested one day and 20 hours after real time (about 22 days after Britannia) by simply watering twice, once when planted and once after maintenance time.

Mandrakes could be harvested two days after real time,  if growth checks during water loss can be avoided, even if slightly off.

I planted mandrakes and these took 2days and 1 hour for real time, then harvested.

Since garlic and mandrakes have a long growing time and it is inevitable to interrupt the maintenance time of the shard, the second (and maybe third) watering should be done as soon as possible after the maintenance to shorten the time of stagnant growth, so that they can be harvested as per the expected period.

This is what I got from checking the fields every two hours during my waking hours this past weekend.

I think the current specifications are unfair to players who live in areas where it is difficult to log in immediately after maintenance to grow mandrakes and garlic, as they will spend extra time due to water loss.

Wouldn't it be better to make it so that the plants never run out of water until 24 hours have passed, starting when each player waters them?

Higure

I can harvest ginseng and nightshade but I am having problem with my garlics and mandrakes.I water them sometimes more than once a day

Kalsey

Add to this, same here.  I have not yet been able to harvest mandrake root.  And I water at least twice a day.  Not a morning person so my first water is usually late mornings.

Is maintenance on NL at 4 AM central?

Pawain

@TETSUJIN ; The plants just reverted to a lower state right now, at like 12:15pm C.  Luckily I plucked out the Ginger and Nightshade right before they would have reverted.  You only have to water Ginger or Nightshade one time, at planting.  You can harvest the dry plants.  See Pic.

@Kyronix ; Seems at least 4 of us planted Mandrake Root and Garlic when this season began.
Since Nightshade takes 6 days.  It has been long enough for MR and Garlic should have been able to harvest now.  Something is wrong with those @Kyronix ; It is still very difficult to water the plants in this picture, can barely see them and they have a tiny clickable area for water.  T

Pawain

The shard crashed at around 11:30pmC, there was a few min revert.(I just did a Tmap and recalled to town, I had to do the map again)  I decided to check my plants.

The ones I harvested and replanted this morning were full size, so I harvested them,  Ill replant to see if I get more tomorrow.

Kalsey

Pawain said:

@ TETSUJIN  The plants just reverted to a lower state right now, at like 12:15pm C.  Luckily I plucked out the Ginger and Nightshade right before they would have reverted.  You only have to water Ginger or Nightshade one time, at planting.  You can harvest the dry plants.  See Pic.

@ Kyronix  Seems at least 4 of us planted Mandrake Root and Garlic when this season began.
Since Nightshade takes 6 days.  It has been long enough for MR and Garlic should have been able to harvest now.  Something is wrong with those @ Kyronix  It is still very difficult to water the plants in this picture, can barely see them and they have a tiny clickable area for water.  T

That is me in the pink dress next to you.  My other account is right after that.  

I'm getting tired of this.  No response.  I've been watering 2-3 times a day, and this morning I set my alarm just to water.  And, the hue needs to be changed so we can see where to water.  One needs to attempt to water several times until it finally hits where the seed is planted.

This has been an ongoing problem.  If the DEVs would take the time to work a plot they could see for themselves, since no one appears to be paying attention to the paying customers.  

Today my plots look exactly the same as this pic.  There are nine planted seeds in each plot, we need to play around to find the other seeded area because they are not visible.  

Anyone there????

Pawain

So Kalsey, Tejsutin and I are using the same field.

There was just another 20 min revert, I had not reached my field yet.  All the not fluffy plants look like this.
I hope they made the small versions look like this from now on.  I could not harvest the ones I planted last night. 

Higure

I lost my farm again today..:D
Double clicking on scarecrow gave me this message "your lease on the farm has been terminated due to abandonement"

Ermmm...what? 

Hotei

Still no Mandrake root to harvest. Planted on Sept 5, 424 Sosaria time. Supposed to take 24 UO days. By my count it is now approximately day 80 in Sosaria time. Plants have been watered daily. I own all plots in this photo. I've only been able to harvest Ginseng and Nightshade. All plants were watered about 4 or 5 hours ago.

Tetsujin, I don't doubt that what you are posting is true.

My problem lies in the fact that I don't believe that it is working as intended. Do they really expect us to water every 2 to 3 hours every real world day starting at server up in order to harvest plants? On my work days, I'm up between 4:30 and 5:00am to get ready for work. Leave the house around 5:30am. I usually don't return home until after 9:00pm. Although tired, I log in to make sure my farm plots are watered. If it is working as intended, then I feel I've been misled and the lack of any clarification from the team is starting to irritate me. It really takes a lot to get me to come on the boards to complain.

Some sort of clarification from the team would be greatly appreciated. @Kyronix

The color of the plants when needing watered is very hard to see, as others have pointed out, but I can live with it. First time I encountered that, I thought I had lost all my plants. Annoying? Yes, but not enough to get me on the boards for that alone.

I appreciate that others are posting in this thread and hope the developers will deign to reply to us and address our concerns.

Kalsey

Pawain said:

So Kalsey, Tejsutin and I are using the same field.

There was just another 20 min revert, I had not reached my field yet.  All the not fluffy plants look like this.
I hope they made the small versions look like this from now on.  I could not harvest the ones I planted last night. 

Looking at my two plots after @Pawain gives me some hope here.  This is the first time I am able to see all nine seeded areas.  

Thank you for posting screen shots.

Pawain

Kalsey said:

Pawain said:

So Kalsey, Tejsutin and I are using the same field.

There was just another 20 min revert, I had not reached my field yet.  All the not fluffy plants look like this.
I hope they made the small versions look like this from now on.  I could not harvest the ones I planted last night. 

Looking at my two plots after @ Pawain gives me some hope here.  This is the first time I am able to see all nine seeded areas.  

Thank you for posting screen shots.

I am hoping they changed the graphics so we can see the small plants better.  Or the shard crash and revert did what's in the picture.

I decided to post pics with more plots since 3 of us use that field.

TETSUJIN

Hello.

Yesterday was a bit bad.

In addition to maintenance, there were shard downs, and the plants ran out of water three times that I am aware of.

There was also a time rewind.(I use a scarecrow and a clock to check the time.)

The newly planted mandrakes yesterday are past 10 days in Britannia days and still not sprouting.

I think the last time I harvested mandrakes they had 10 days to sprout.

The beginning of the guide says “Farming will require a bit of hard word, a touch of a green thumb, and of course, some good fortune.” is there a random factor?

Does this mean that the last successful mandrake grow was a lucky one?

If so, I must say that growing mandrakes is a very hard task.

If you have to calculate even unexpected shard downs.

@Kyronix

I'm just checking the description in the guide.

“You must visit your plot and water all 9 plants once each earth day in order to maintain it.”

Is this once each earth day in real time, not Britannia time?

Is this only for the maintenance of the plot and do the plants need more water than this?

Is there a random rise and fall in the growth stages of the plant?

LilyGrace

Frustrating

Higure

I think I won't try again until this is fixed. I harvested ginsengs and planted shades, garlic and mandrake still waiting...watered everything and logged in next day to find my plot empty and message that I abandoned my farm.

Pawain

@Kyronix ; can you remove the seeds Mandrake Root and Garlic from the farmer so we do not keep wasting our time?   Either that or fix it or tell us the intended operation of these plant types? 

Kyronix

What should be happening is each earth day you'll visit your plants to water them and you should be good until the next server maintenance cycle. 

If you can post your findings otherwise I can investigate what might be going on.

Pawain

Kyronix said:

What should be happening is each earth day you'll visit your plants to water them and you should be good until the next server maintenance cycle. 

If you can post your findings otherwise I can investigate what might be going on.

Thanks 3 or more of us are watering daily, some are watering even more.  We are having trouble with MR and Garlic.  We all planted them on the first day of this season.  It's been more than 60 UO days someone said.  Our plants still have not matured.

I have 2 plots with MR and Garlic.  9 of each type.  I water daily, they are still in tiny mode.

I harvest ginseng and nightshade the next day after planting.  Those take 4 and 6 UO days. So if the system works that way for those, we should have the plants in question after 6 Real days.

It has been many more than 6 days since we planted those.

Thanks

Kalsey

Kyronix said:

What should be happening is each earth day you'll visit your plants to water them and you should be good until the next server maintenance cycle. 

If you can post your findings otherwise I can investigate what might be going on.

@Kyronix ; Thank you for addressing this.  I have never been able to harvest mandrake root, it continues to revert to an early stage.  Am watering several times a day, 2-3 times.  Just today I created another character on NL for the sole purpose of farming, so now I have 3 accounts on NL.

Please know I can appreciate how busy ya'll are, but if you could quickly scan through this thread you can see the various problems players have been having.  In my experience, Nightshade, Flax, and Cotton do just fine.  

Also is there any way to change the hue for newly planted seeds?  Very hard to water when one cannot see where the seeds had been planted.  The round area with the seeds does not show prior to watering.  And it's very specific as to where one has to place the curser.

Thank you.

Hotei

First, forgive me in advance for this rather lengthy post. I wanted to include as much information as possible.

Update. I was finally able to harvest one plot of Mandrake root. Just the one although not on my other plots. I gave what Tetsujin said worked for him a try since I had the day off. I had the day off and watered every two hours during the course of Tuesday and was finally able to harvest yesterday morning (Wednesday). I can't believe that is the intent. Planted first day of new season, Sept 5, 424. Harvested October 37, 424. That's 105 Sosarian days, give or take one. My other plots in the attached photo with Mandrake and Garlic also planted Sept 5, 424 have still not been harvested. I think I may have only watered those 4 times on Tuesday. Tried to water everything more yesterday, but probably only 3 or 4 times.

Seems that watering once every 24 real hours just serves to keep your plot active, but doesn't seem to count towards the growth cycle of Mandrake and Garlic, watering those once per 24 hours seems to keep them alive, but the plants do not progress in their growth cycle.

Haven't had a problem with Ginseng, Nightshade and Cotton. They seem to do fine. Though the amount of cotton reaped when harvested doesn't seem like a good use of time and resources. Could we bump up the cotton received to at least 25 or preferably 50 per plant (I'd love more, but don't want to appear greedy)? If memory serves, I think I only got 5 cotton from the plant I harvested.

Here's a photo when when I harvested. Sorry, the plot is empty, I was so excited to finally harvest that I harvested them all before I thought to take a photo. But wanted to highlight the date of finally harvesting the Mandrake. To reiterate, I planted this plot on first day of the new season. I own all these plots, the mandrake and garlic planted in the other 3 plots have still not reached the stage of harvesting. Plot to my east was planted at beginning of the season. The two to the south were planted the next day. Not sure the Sosarian date, but it was the next real world day or two after seasons changed.

Thank you for looking into this @Kyronix , please let us know what you find out, or if you need any further information. And if possible, what kind of information you need.

Kalsey

@Kyronix

Hail!  I lost connection so only giving feedback on one account.  This account is new to NL, I just created a character there yesterday.

I only watered once.  Sorry, can't remember what time & I forgot to document time of watering..

Planted:      3 Nightshade        3  Mandrake Root      3 Ginseng          November 13th

Harvested     3 Nightshade                                           3 Ginseng        November 14th

I was able to see the 3 Mandrake Root as seedlings.!!  (first time)

Would watering more than once a day cause a problem?  This plot was only watered once, and I could see the MR seeds today.  No problems.

Will post findings on other two accounts/plots when able to log back on.

Thanks!!!

 

Pawain

I guess Ill post what I do for 6 days and someone can figure out what I am doing wrond.

I have fields 1 2 3.  I logged in to find my MR and Garlic changed to a smaller size plant.  I watered them and they turned green,  I did not have time to show a pic because, I harvested my Ginseng and Nightshade, which do work just fine.  Then just now the plants changed graphics.

So, left side is when I arrived, Right side is after I watered and the plants changed to a different graphic. 5:40pm ish.

All plants are watered.   At least some player can get MR to go to a full size plant on this field because I can not by watering once a day.

I have no idea as to why the plants will change graphics during the day at random times.

TETSUJIN

Hello all,

This time it took 47 Britannia days to grow Mandrake.

In real time that is 3 days and 22 hours.

This time we struggled to get the growth going.

There was a server down on the first day.

Then there was one unexplained water loss and the sprouts went back to seed.

Other times, the seedlings ran out of water after 3 Britannia days after watering, regardless of maintenance time.

Therefore, I watered the seedlings after 3 days without water in Britannia (when it happens in maintenance), just to be sure. Realistically, I watered them once every 6 to 8 hours.

Below is the cultivation record of one of the two characters.

mandrake 

nw = No watering

w = with watering

West side / Middle / East side

Real date time is Japan time.

Real 1 day in Britannia 12 days.

no data = real afk No watering at this time of day.

From left to right, they are: how many days of cultivation, Britannia date and time, real date and time (in 24-hour notation), seedling condition, and water availability, note.

Sorry if I'm describing it wrong.

Day1.Oct3 9:20 am 11/11 9:50am seeding　w/w/w

2.Oct4 9:20 am 11/11 11:50 seed　nw/nw/nw

3.Oct5 9:20 am 11/11 13:50 seed　nw/nw/nw

server down

4.Oct6 7:46 pm 11/11 15:10 seed　w/w/w our of water

--Oct6 7:47 am 11/11 16:00 seed　w/w/w server revert roll back

5.Oct7 7:50 am 11/11 18:10 seed          

6.Oct8 no data 11/11 20:00 seed
maintenance

7.Oct9 no data 11/11 22:00 seed　w/w/w

Unable to log in due to bedtime and other reasons.

8.Oct10 no data 11/12 0:00 

9.Oct11 no data 11/12 2:00 

10.Oct12 no data 11/12 4:00 

11.Oct13 no data 11/12 6:00 

12.Oct14 no data 11/12 8:00

 

13.Oct15 5:18pm 11/12 10:17am seed w/w/w

14.Oct16 4:50pm 11/12 12:15pm seed nw/w/w

15.Oct17 3:18pm 11/12 14:07　seed　nw/w/w

16.Oct18 6:18pm 11/12 16:24 seed　4 days no sprouts, so I water them all.

17.Oct19 5:20pm 11/12 18:18 sprout w/w/w

18.Oct20 4:15pm 11/12 20:11 sprout w/w/w

maintenance

19.Oct21 1:13pm 11/12 22:12 sprout w/w/w out of water

20.Oct22 no data 11/13 0:00 nw/nw/nw 

21.Oct23 no data 11/13 2:00 nw/nw/nw

22.Oct24 no data 11/13 4:00 nw/nw/nw 

23.Oct25 1:34pm 11/13 6:12 sprout w/w/w out of water what? don't know.

The cause of the water loss here is unknown. I don't know if the water retention is up to 3 days Britannia or if there was an unexpected shard down.

24.Oct26 6:02pm 11/13 8:33 seed　w/w/w 

25.Oct27 3:29pm 11/13 10:21 seed　nw/nw/nw No watering.

26.Oct28 2:55pm 11/13 12:18pm seed nw/w/w　leaving one row on the left to do the watering

27.Oct29 2:49pm 11/13 14:17 seed　nw/nw/nw

28.Oct30 3:43pm 11/13 16:22 seed　nw/nw/nw

29.Oct31 3:09pm 11/13 18:19 sprout nw/w/w

30.Oct32 3:27pm 11/13 20:21 sprout nw/nw/nw

maintenance

31.Oct33 5:10pm 11/13 22:33 sprout out of water w/w/w

32.Oct34 no data 11/14 0:00am 

33.Oct35 no data 11/14 2:00

34.Oct36 no data 11/14 4:00

35.Oct37 7:32am 11/14 5:43am w/w/w I watered it yesterday night after maintenance, but at 6:00 the next morning I saw it was out of water, so I watered it before 6:00 this morning just to be sure.

36.Oct38 5:52pm 11/14 8:21am Leaves (the next stage after sprout)　nw/nw/nw

37.Oct39 2:44pm 11/14 10:19 Leaves (the next stage after sprout)　nw/nw/nw

38.Oct40 1:42pm 11/14 12:15 Leaves (the next stage after sprout)　nw/nw/nw

39.Oct41 2:48pm 11/14 14:20 Leaves (the next stage after sprout)　w/w/w Three Britannia days passed without water, so I watered everything just to be sure.

40.Oct42 3:12pm 11/14 16:22 Leaves (the next stage after sprout)  nw/nw/nw 

41.Oct43 2:25pm 11/14 18:18 Branch (next stage after leaves)　nw/nw/nw

42.Oct44 4:25pm 11/14 20:28 Branch (next stage after leaves)　w/w/w Two Britannia days passed without water and maintenance was imminent, so I watered it just in case.

maintenance

43.Oct45 1:22pm 11/14 22:13 Branch (next stage after leaves)　w/w/w out of water Maintenance ran out of water, so everything was watered. 

44.Oct46 3:02pm 11/15 0:21am Branch (next stage after leaves)　nw/nw/nw

45.Oct47 2:27pm 11/15 2:19 Branch (next stage after leaves)　nw/nw/nw

46.Oct48 no data 11/15 4:00 Branch (next stage after leaves) nw/nw/nw

47.Oct49 8:57am 11/15 5:52 mandrake　w/w/w

 

I really don't know what happened on day 23.

But the sprouts went back to seed, so it was a significant loss.

Pawain

@Kyronix it looks like you can only make MR and Garlic if you water multiple times a day that match those weird reverts.  Thats not cool.  Dude has to make a spreadsheet to get them to grow.

Hotei

As stated, it seems you can only progress the Mandrake and Garlic by watering multiple times per day, Seems 4 to 6 is not enough unless maybe if you happen to do it at the exact right time. The only way to ensure a harvest is to do what Tetsujin is doing and water every two hours for as long as you are able to stay awake. I don't know about everyone else, but I would think this is virtually impossible for the vast majority of the player base.

As I stated previously, all plots in this photo are mine. SW plot is all garlic planted either the first or second day of current season (RL days). SE plot is mix of garlic and mandrake planted at same time, few hours later perhaps. Neither has progressed to the harvesting stage. All this week I have been watering them as often as I can around real life obligations. At least 4 or more times per RL day. Plot to the NE has been reliably providing ginseng and nightshade to harvest without any problems. Southern row in that plot is mandrake that was planted at the beginning of the season and has yet to reach harvestable stage. 129 Sosarian days since planting mandrake and garlic with no harvest. Something ain't right.

Plot on the NW corner is the plot that I was finally able to harvest yesterday, I must have gotten lucky with my watering schedule. As stated, no days of watering have been missed on any of these plots since they were planted. This week I've been doing my best to water them as often as possible but am unable to do them every 2 hours. I just finished watering them all again, but due to real life obligations, it's been slightly over 4 hours since the last watering and I'm afraid that all the mandrake and garlic have probably reverted to stage 1 of their progress.

I'm back to work this weekend and will only be able to water the plots once every 24 hours, rather disheartening to think that all but the ginseng and nightshade will sit in limbo until my days off where I will have to try and water them every 2 hours in order to get them to harvest. And gods forbid if I miss a watering, because then they will revert to the beginning of the process again.

Somebody, anybody, please look into this and let us know if this is what you intended or if something is indeed wonky. If this is how it's going to be, I think I may give up on the farming. Sounded like a good idea, but I don't think many are finding it very rewarding.

@Kyronix

Hotei

Just a quick update. Here's the latest photo. Was able to harvest the ginseng and nightshade. Can't remember if I planted them first thing this morning or last thing last night. Anyway, Everyone seems to be in agreement that those two plants seem to be working fine. As stated in a previous post, Cotton seems to work fine as well. I haven't tried any other plants besides what I've discussed in this thread. Just harvested and replanted the ginseng and nightshade in the NE plot and all plants are watered again. Last watering was about 4 hours ago.

I won't be able to water more often than once a day for the next several days, so I doubt I'll be harvesting anything except ginseng and nightshade. I'll post an update on Tuesday with hopefully some better news.

Pawain

Yes @Kyronix those of us who water one time a day are not able to produce Mandrake Root or Garlic.  The plants will get to the second green stage and then revert to smaller, just like the pic above.

Kalsey

I am uncertain as to where exactly we should be reporting these NL bugs.  Is there a particular thread we should be using?  Thanks.  @Mariah

Pawain

Here are my plants today.  I harvested the ones that work.

My MR and Garlic are stage 2  Obviously I watered them.  They reverted back to stage 1 size yesterday..

Looks like we all are stage 2 on the Garlic on this field.

Hotei

Just finished watering all my plots. Last watered appx. 24 hours ago. Didn't really need to water the ginseng and nightshade, they could have been harvested without the watering but I wanted to have some color in the photo.

I believe this is 12 UO days since my last watering. So this makes appx. 143 Sosarian days since the mandrake and garlic in the SE, SW, and NE plots were planted. The only thing positive about this mess is that I don't have to buy seeds. Buy them once and done. The joy of watering daily should be reward in itself I suppose. Sorry for the sarcasm, but it's been a long day and this is starting to become more of a chore than a fun escape.

Hotei

This is what happened while I was posting. I guess I should have harvested while I had the chance. Reckon I'll water again since I'm here or else I may not get to harvest the Ginseng and Nightshade tomorrow either.