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Fishing Skill and Fabled fish net

NimrudNimrud Posts: 97
in Skills and Stats
Hi, a simple question with a big doubt:
it's necessary to have fishing skill to utilize the Fabled fish net ?
Thx
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  • GrimbeardGrimbeard Posts: 2,265
    The higher your fishing the better chance of summoning!
  • NimrudNimrud Posts: 97
    Ok thx
  • PawainPawain Posts: 9,989
    I don't think fishing skill matters.  I toss them on my mage and bring up scalis.  But I have seen players toons that get Scalis very often and they may or may not have fishing.  Seems some are luckier than others.
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • GrimbeardGrimbeard Posts: 2,265
    https://www.uoguide.com/Fabled_Fishing_Net
  • NimrudNimrud Posts: 97
    But it is possible for a fisher with archery and magery to combat Osiredon or Scalis with some chance to win the match?
  • MariahMariah Posts: 3,239Moderator
    Scalis is not considered to be a solo encounter, usually a guild event, or sometimes a shard event. Europa has such an event tonight, details are in the Europa forum
  • NimrudNimrud Posts: 97
    I was afraid of this answer, no chance for my solo fisher. Thx Mariah for the suggestion for tonight i'll think about it.
  • MariahMariah Posts: 3,239Moderator
    Nimrud said:
    I was afraid of this answer, no chance for my solo fisher. Thx Mariah for the suggestion for tonight i'll think about it.

    Gather a few nets, set a time and date and throw out an invitation in General Chat for anyone on your shard to join you?
  • keven2002keven2002 Posts: 2,257
    Nimrud said:
    I was afraid of this answer, no chance for my solo fisher. Thx Mariah for the suggestion for tonight i'll think about it.

    Just an FYI that Scalis is an encounter that really has no downside to make public since your chances of getting a drop (small soulforge) are the same and the amount of loot is generally the same as well (I've done it with 7ppl and up to 30ppl and IIRC it's generally the same amount of loot per char). The benefit of making it public is that you will be able to kill it much faster to do more if you have the nets.
  • PawainPawain Posts: 9,989
    Grimbeard said:
    https://www.uoguide.com/Fabled_Fishing_Net
    The % based on skill is lined out.  So, what are you showing me?  That  my observation is correct?  1 in 4 sounds close to what my 0 skill mage throws.
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • Lord_FrodoLord_Frodo Posts: 2,421
    Pawain said:
    Grimbeard said:
    https://www.uoguide.com/Fabled_Fishing_Net
    The % based on skill is lined out.  So, what are you showing me?  That  my observation is correct?  1 in 4 sounds close to what my 0 skill mage throws.
    try this link  https://uo.com/wiki/ultima-online-wiki/skills/fishing/leviathan-and-osiredon-the-scalis-enforcer/
  • PawainPawain Posts: 9,989
    The only thing it says about skill is under the leviathan section.
    The fabled net thrower (if a GM or higher Fisherman) has a 1 in 4 chance of getting a minor artifact (not modified by luck or damage).


    If a fisherman gives me nets to throw,  I'll get scalis eventually with no fishing skill.
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • keven2002keven2002 Posts: 2,257
    Pawain said:
    If a fisherman gives me nets to throw,  I'll get scalis eventually with no fishing skill.

    If you want to waste white nets go for it. 

    This was several years ago but there was a very clear difference for me throwing with a non fishing char vs one with 120 fishing. I'm not sure how much difference there is between 100 and 120 but there is definitely a difference between 0 and 120.
  • Lord_FrodoLord_Frodo Posts: 2,421
    @Mariah could you check with the DEVs to see witch is true UOGuide or UOWiki
  • PawainPawain Posts: 9,989
    I'm not sure if anyone on LS uses their actual fisherman to summon Scalis.  Except Gabby, but she makes the others mad because she throws them until there are 3 or more Scalis.
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • GrimbeardGrimbeard Posts: 2,265
    Seems easy enough for @Community Manager or @Kyronix to respond 
  • PawainPawain Posts: 9,989
    Grimbeard said:
    Seems easy enough for @ "Community Manager" or @ Kyronix to respond 
    Or go throw 10 with 0 skill and 10 with 120 and see the results. 
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • GrimbeardGrimbeard Posts: 2,265
    Pawain said:
    Grimbeard said:
    Seems easy enough for @ "Community Manager" or @ Kyronix to respond 
    Or go throw 10 with 0 skill and 10 with 120 and see the results. 
    Too small of a sample size and unlike you some folks enjoy developers communication 
  • MariahMariah Posts: 3,239Moderator
    The information regarding the 1 in 4 chance of a minor artifact comes from here:

  • GrimbeardGrimbeard Posts: 2,265
    Mariah said:
    The information regarding the 1 in 4 chance of a minor artifact comes from here:

    Thank you 
  • Lord_FrodoLord_Frodo Posts: 2,421
    Mariah said:
    The information regarding the 1 in 4 chance of a minor artifact comes from here:

    We are questioning this from UOGuide  For a GM Fisherman, there is a 25% chance to spawn Osiredon the Scalis Enforcer.
  • MariahMariah Posts: 3,239Moderator
    Lord_Frodo said:
    Mariah said:
    The information regarding the 1 in 4 chance of a minor artifact comes from here:

    We are questioning this from UOGuide  For a GM Fisherman, there is a 25% chance to spawn Osiredon the Scalis Enforcer.

    Yes. I'm aware. I have trawled back through publishes, I have checked every where I can think of. I could find where my info came from for the wiki, but I couldn't locate the source of uoguide's info. Sorry
  • Lord_FrodoLord_Frodo Posts: 2,421
    Mariah said:
    Mariah said:
    The information regarding the 1 in 4 chance of a minor artifact comes from here:

    We are questioning this from UOGuide  For a GM Fisherman, there is a 25% chance to spawn Osiredon the Scalis Enforcer.

    Yes. I'm aware. I have trawled back through publishes, I have checked every where I can think of. I could find where my info came from for the wiki, but I couldn't locate the source of uoguide's info. Sorry
    Could you contact the DEVs and ask
  • keven2002keven2002 Posts: 2,257
    Lord_Frodo said:
    Mariah said:
    Mariah said:
    The information regarding the 1 in 4 chance of a minor artifact comes from here:

    We are questioning this from UOGuide  For a GM Fisherman, there is a 25% chance to spawn Osiredon the Scalis Enforcer.

    Yes. I'm aware. I have trawled back through publishes, I have checked every where I can think of. I could find where my info came from for the wiki, but I couldn't locate the source of uoguide's info. Sorry
    Could you contact the DEVs and ask

    That's what McDougle did when he tagged them in this thread... Community Manager should be answering these types of questions for the community instead of posting threads with little substance like what was your first house / favorite expansion.
  • GrimbeardGrimbeard Posts: 2,265
    keven2002 said:
    Lord_Frodo said:
    Mariah said:
    Mariah said:
    The information regarding the 1 in 4 chance of a minor artifact comes from here:

    We are questioning this from UOGuide  For a GM Fisherman, there is a 25% chance to spawn Osiredon the Scalis Enforcer.

    Yes. I'm aware. I have trawled back through publishes, I have checked every where I can think of. I could find where my info came from for the wiki, but I couldn't locate the source of uoguide's info. Sorry
    Could you contact the DEVs and ask

    That's what McDougle did when he tagged them in this thread... Community Manager should be answering these types of questions for the community instead of posting threads with little substance like what was your first house / favorite expansion.
    The community Manager like us all lives with a narcissistic leader let's imagine the daily meetings. So about those Halloween contest winners...same for Mariah left in the cold to deal with us..
  • keven2002keven2002 Posts: 2,257
    Grimbeard said:
    The community Manager like us all lives with a narcissistic leader let's imagine the daily meetings. So about those Halloween contest winners...same for Mariah left in the cold to deal with us..

    I understand what you are saying but at the same time, when CM is being asked a direct question and they then post like 24 hours later some empty topic thread about "have you ever attended a UO wedding" that tells me they don't care about the community.

    Side note - I highly doubt Mesanna is telling the CM to not answer a question about something like the odds of pulling Scalis - that's just generic info that any developer should be able to give them. If it is a secret number (not sure why it would be) then they could still reply with something about "keeping the secret sauce recipe a secret". At least it's acknowledgment of the question.
  • Lord_FrodoLord_Frodo Posts: 2,421
    keven2002 said:
    Lord_Frodo said:
    Mariah said:
    Mariah said:
    The information regarding the 1 in 4 chance of a minor artifact comes from here:

    We are questioning this from UOGuide  For a GM Fisherman, there is a 25% chance to spawn Osiredon the Scalis Enforcer.

    Yes. I'm aware. I have trawled back through publishes, I have checked every where I can think of. I could find where my info came from for the wiki, but I couldn't locate the source of uoguide's info. Sorry
    Could you contact the DEVs and ask

    That's what McDougle did when he tagged them in this thread... Community Manager should be answering these types of questions for the community instead of posting threads with little substance like what was your first house / favorite expansion.
    @Mariah has a much better rapport with the DEVs and appears to get answers when others can not. 
  • PawainPawain Posts: 9,989
    My 0 skill guy usually gets at least 1 scalis from 10 nets.   I have seen 120 fishers get 1 with 10. I have seen a pvper template get a scalis with almost every toss.  I can't tell his name because it is too offensive, but he is the luckiest net tosser I have seen.

    Some of us don't need more hand holding.  If fishing skill increases chance, will I throw with my fisherman?  Nope.  I do it for the chance of a drop, which requires me to do damage.
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • GrimbeardGrimbeard Posts: 2,265
    Pawain said:
    My 0 skill guy usually gets at least 1 scalis from 10 nets.   I have seen 120 fishers get 1 with 10. I have seen a pvper template get a scalis with almost every toss.  I can't tell his name because it is too offensive, but he is the luckiest net tosser I have seen.

    Some of us don't need more hand holding.  If fishing skill increases chance, will I throw with my fisherman?  Nope.  I do it for the chance of a drop, which requires me to do damage.
    Great no further need for you to reply to this thread. 
  • keven2002keven2002 Posts: 2,257
    edited May 19
    Grimbeard said:
    Pawain said:
    My 0 skill guy usually gets at least 1 scalis from 10 nets.   I have seen 120 fishers get 1 with 10. I have seen a pvper template get a scalis with almost every toss.  I can't tell his name because it is too offensive, but he is the luckiest net tosser I have seen.

    Some of us don't need more hand holding.  If fishing skill increases chance, will I throw with my fisherman?  Nope.  I do it for the chance of a drop, which requires me to do damage.
    Great no further need for you to reply to this thread. 

    It's his typical non-helpful response "People can do stuff. I don't care about the answer so nothing is broken and there is no need for the Devs to hand hold; aka respond."

    He probably didn't even need a post to begin with but now that he's posted and we know his stance hopefully he won't open this thread anymore because he doesn't care about the chances of pulling a Scalis and he can let those that do try to be informed without his pointless remarks.
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