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Put the spawn in the swamp between Minoc and Brit. It is nice and flat. No houses.
its in same location as a champ spawn in fel, nobody has ever complained about hoppers bog location"
None of the dynamic champ spawns has ever been deployed to Live with the same location as was on Test Center. At least not that I'm aware of...
If you re-read Kyronix post, he does not ask about feedback concerning the location.
Britain swamp is too close to housing and I could see someone luring stuff to peoples houses
or it spawning inside housing.
I would prefer the swamp south of destard.
much easier terrain to deal with.
Hoppers Bog my pet went to attack something and I couldn't figure out how to get to it.
I actually had to use the moongate to go to Britain to get it back. (I tried to teleport to where it was, but couldn't see the location the cu was standing)
The terrain is really bad for pets and line of sight, but when I spawn I usually use my sampire, attack multiple targets instead of one at a time works better. Archers work well too as long as you have the Select nearest hostile/attack selected macro it runs a bit smoother.
Tamers will have a hard time with this area but it's not impossible.
The swamp south of Destard where the savages are? Not big enough and buildings in the way, not a good spot.
Hopper's has always been a not so nice place to spawn, back in the day when I used to spawn every day, we avoided Hopper's whenever possible! lol.
1. mark a rune below where the pet is stuck
2. walk a short way away from it
3. Cast a gate on the rune
4. walk through the gate - pet will appear at the gate.
I still believe this to be a more exclusionary mechanic versus the egg pick-up. During the previous system I enjoyed wandering around finding them, getting into little races with folks as we rushed to the eggs, and generally seeing people out exploring the world. I'm sorry that because of scripters they've gone a different direction for this publish. But, I get it.
Now, having a mechanic which utilizes an under-used part of the game (gardening and green thorns) is not a bad idea at all! In fact, I'm kind of into seeing the creativity on display there. But my critique here is that green thorns are not a resource many folks have stock-piled. Kyronix, in our talk, said something like "I don't think everything should always be available all the time." (I do apologize if my paraphrasing isn't right here.) I hear that, but I want people to enjoy the new content. To get into the game and get going on the cool new stuff without getting time-gated behind growing the plants, or simply pay a ton of gold from resource speculators. So to me it's like this system is missing one more element. Like there's a potion of instant plant growing that players could loot off of some mobs, or a side quest that rewarded ten thorns a day. Some other kind of mechanic that augments this and provides another avenue to unlocking the content. I'm no slouch when it comes to hoarding wealth and resources on my shard, but even I couldn't get more than 8 green seeds before everything was gone from Vendor Search.
When it came to actually using the thorns, these were my ten draws:
I know Kyronix said to ignore this information but based on what we've been working out over on Discord, it's clear part of this is a luck check. The player's luck must beat a randomly determined number, and if so you get an egg in your pack. The best I can do on my luck suit on my home shard is 2910, which means if I had placed these ten thorns there I would have gotten 5 eggs.
Putting aside whether or not having that much luck (in one of these cases it wanted me to have 3652 luck!) to earn an egg is a good thing, I think it should be said that we're getting a concrete system where luck matters in a meaningful way. I know we won't see this debug information on our home shards, but for all the uncertainty and local folk lore around how luck works in the game, it's interesting to see the team give us such a clear-cut mechanic. Anything that combats misinformation in the game is good!
Concerning the champ spawn, I think the four levels of creatures were fine. Definitely ramped up in difficulty as things went. I do not think the boss needs the regenerative health ala EM bosses. Seven or eight of us were wailing on that thing for over 20 minutes before the first regeneration. As has been said, it's a bit much for most non-Atlantic shards. I got 4 eggs in the very first wave, which seemed to match what others were getting. No one seemed to have gotten an egg in the last two rounds.
Concerning the fishing pole, as expressed to Kyronix already I'm personally fine with it as is, or if changed with just spell channeling. I don't think a best-in-slot item should ever be locked into the vet reward system. There's no reason for it to have slayer or stats of any kind. My fishers would like a fun hue on it, though.
I think this was very sweet, and appreciate him sharing that with us. Especially as I can now stop trying to figure that name origin out!
I think the vet reward flags look amazing, and can't wait to have a few of those out. I see this, the flag of the Great Nation-State of Booze, being the most popular:
The salvage station and refinement workbench don't appeal to me, but I think I agree with others when they say the station's use is limited. But, Kyronix did say to us that those really are intended to be more deco than integral items. I respect that viewpoint for veteran rewards, personally. I'd much rather we get functional items through game play and the fancy deco/peacocking stuff through the vet system.
The Mondain's Revenge Valentine's Day dolls are cute enough. I like their heart animation. Sometimes it feels like we've got far too many dolls in this game, though? Like someone is really into toys in the art department. I'd much rather the team sell dolls like that in real life and in-game we get items that don't break the fourth-wall.
If the list of potential rewards has not yet been finalized, some previous I'd still like to see return are the Mark of Wildfire, Yukio's Earrings, Drogeni's Spellbook, the Wand of Warding, and the Lantern of Protection. The first two, obviously, will help with the luck that part of the event will require. Drogeni's is just dead-useful for a lot of character types, and the two shield transmog targets are always popular.
The actual spawn creatures are pretty weak. Only the Dread Spiders (Spider slayer?) and Skrees (Dragon Slayer?) are casters, so there is not much danger for most of the spawn.
Any template that is follower dependent is going to have a rough time due to the terrain and LoS issues.
Any template that has non-targeted AoE damage can just roll through the spawn. I worked the spawn to Dread Spiders, solo, with little effort, using Earthquake/Wither spam on a character that is supposed to be a Spellweaver. With the rate I was going, I could probably have popped the champ solo, on an out of spec mage.
Templates with EQ, Wither, Thunderstorm, Essence of Wind (especially EoW; it seems to do better than the others) are going to do very well during the spawn itself.
Yes, the power level on those AoE spells disappears completely once the champ spawns. However due to the champ's abilities, if you have a tank in front of you, you can just switch to Wraith Form/Death Ray and keep on chugging.
As it is now, I'm suspecting a team of two, one AoE caster for the spawn, and one fighter to tank the champ, should be able to finish off this encounter fairly quickly.
P.S. Necromantic summons are about, no they are, worthless. However, you can probably solo the entire spawn with just Wither, so Necro Caster, rather than Necro Pet Handler, for the win.
I guess that's thematically consistent. Spring Event. Spring = Life and Rebirth. Necro is kinda anti-life (yet quite pro rebirth eh?)
@Kyronix
Dynamic spawn:
- Location should change to a place where there aren't so many "stuck" spots. It will make higher level things that spawn up there very hard to kill unless an archer is helping work the spawn.
- Boss should NOT have multiple HP regens. Doing this will drastically hurt shards that are not well populated like ATL (especially given the final drop isn't best in slot or OP).
- Boots aren't bad. One ask I'd have is to switch them to be 2HP/2Stam/2Mana so that if our suits have us at the 150 stat cap we could still use them. If the boss is going to keep the 75/50/25 regen these boots need to be much better though.
- I think the skree might be a little tough given their extremely fast casting. Getting 2-3 of these on you without a mount is death.
Dynamic event:- I think the mini abominations are a cool switch up from from last year and are probably where they should be as far as difficulty given drops aren't guaranteed. This shouldn't be as easy to bot as the eggs were last year.
- One question here is whether or not the Fel luck bonus of +1000 luck goes towards the luck roll (I would think it should??). I do not think it does currently as I was in Fel doing some rabbits and one of my luck to beat rolls was 3609 and my luck "failed" at 2700 (would be 3700 with Fel bonus).
Vet Rewards:This would make an interesting quest for a season of NL!
Just saying pets are not smart enough to navigate the terrain very well. LS is a Tamer shard they will use their pets. Would be easier for them if it were a flatter swampland. Or Swampify Yew again.
Can we have a list of the Dungeons that could possibly be used for the dungeon events? PLEASE
Now I find it interesting that for me the best toons to collect eggs are my tamers as they have the most luck. While the best toons to do the champ spawns seem to be my sampire and archers. I am going to try out the above noted caster approach. Might be a way to work past having a large shard population. I could then see my tamers being more useful at the spawn as well, as I could cast earthquake, Essence of Wind, and temporally put on Necro, for whither, then cast whither, death ray, and send in pet for the champ.
As for rewards I would also like to see Mark of Wildfire, Yukio's Earrings, the Wand of Warding, and the Lantern of Protection make a return I would also enjoy seeing Solaria's Secret Poisons make a return but hope for some new things as well such as a gorget with Balron Armor Stats, made out of studded leather, a new talisman with either similar to the new demon and fey slayers with a different slayer on it, I'm sure plenty of people don't have a full cameo set and need the other super slayers.
I'm really looking forward to this spring should prove lots of fun. Thanks!
Are there any viable AoE pet builds? Something that could hit the critters in the hilly terrain around the champ spawn?
If there was, your tamer friends would be happy with you for sharing! The existence of such builds might also drive diversity in pet builds, power scroll consumption, and PvP in the months leading up to and during the spawn.
If there aren't any viable builds, that's too bad, people seem to love playing with their pets. If there are, the above might be good reasons to leave the spawn where it is.
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keven2002,
I'm in agreement about the fishing pole. After reading other posts I think 400 Luck is too high. I wouldn't want to see every t-hunter running around holding a fishing pole. If max Luck from main/off hand is 380, it would be nice to see something in that realm though, just to even up fishers with t-hunters and knowing that fishers can't ever get the off-hand. Maybe 300 on the pole with the choice to enhance to 340? Or 260 with the chance to enhance to 300? T-hunters would still be better off with main/off hand, but fishers would be able to close the gap significantly. Who knows, Kyronix might not even be considering luck.
I also agree with adding 10 or 20% bait strength or 1-5 fishing skill. Something fishing related. Reduced crab pot loss? The pole is nice already: no shoes, blessed, and can be enhanced. However, since it is a 2 year vet reward, a buff seems ok.
something that makes you take notice
Below you will sort of see of what I mean. It says Player luck must be 772 and my max luck (which is my current luck) is 275. If the Fel bonus was working it should say 1275 was my max luck AND I should have gotten an egg drop in my pack since the required luck was under 1k; I should have automatically gotten it from the Fel bonus alone. I also did not get an egg on the corpse.
While Bog Things (the champ model) don't have slayers (?), Bog Thing Killer% / Protector% might appear on Talisman. Boglings as well.
Forest Ostard, Giant Serpent, and Dread Spider all have Killer% / Protector% talismans.
I only checked Atl/Pac for talis and it looks like most everything on VS was there for crafting %'s, not killer/protector. I was surprised not to see an Alligator or Scorpion talis. They might exist, but nobody is keeping them.
Anyway, might be a buff (and or protection) for certain critters for fighters if you don't have Cameo's or Slayers.
A 100 skill Skree that just has Armor ignore would work fine for a pet. Do not change the magic.
They come with Magery and Mysticism. Pet spells dont do a lot of damage but at least they will hit more things. It will be running all over the place.
are green thorns going to be only available via growing? or is there going to be another way to harvest these?