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What color Juvenile Umbrascale Dragon is your favorite?

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  • GrimbeardGrimbeard Posts: 3,329
    I got the classic red  <3
  • PawainPawain Posts: 11,574
    They are calling it Ferarri Red.
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • ForeverFunForeverFun Posts: 1,070

    Some hues must be missing from the chart ?

  • PawainPawain Posts: 11,574
    Looks like many of the Reds can claim that.

    Reminds me of my insurance salesman. Oh you bought a Mustang, it's not red is it, that's gonna cost more.
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • keven2002keven2002 Posts: 2,706
    Still haven't gotten one....so at this point any color would be my favorite. 

    Starting to feel like the obelisk all over again.
  • GrimbeardGrimbeard Posts: 3,329
    Pawain said:
    Looks like many of the Reds can claim that.

    Reminds me of my insurance salesman. Oh you bought a Mustang, it's not red is it, that's gonna cost more.
    Because I'm a scoundrel and couldn't pick chivalry I  went disco AI so far she's a beast
  • PlayerSkillFTWPlayerSkillFTW Posts: 702
    Black is my favorite color.
  • VenomVenom Posts: 134
    I second that, with black being my favorite color for these beasts. 
  • gggghhhh0987gggghhhh0987 Posts: 27
    i like white or black
  • gggghhhh0987gggghhhh0987 Posts: 27
    edited November 25
    Unfortunately, I've been playing this event for over a month and already have caught more than 500 regular eggs, but I still haven't gotten a single mature egg of any color. However, I've seen some players who have caught so many mature eggs that they're selling them.
  • PawainPawain Posts: 11,574
    500 is not many eggs. 
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • gggghhhh0987gggghhhh0987 Posts: 27
    Pawain said:
    500 is not many eggs. 
    Excuse me, game forum administrator, how many regular eggs do you actually consider "too many"? Again, I'm just a casual player; I can't possibly be like you, constantly playing and working in the game and the forum with 24 hours
  • PawainPawain Posts: 11,574
    Or no time to make up a decent forum name.
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • poppspopps Posts: 4,370
    Pawain said:
    500 is not many eggs. 

    I would also like to hear what would be "too many" regular eggs... to me, 500 seems a real lot... especially considered that there is no container to hold them all (a container holding like 500 eggs but counting as 1 item) and players thus need to find storage space for whatever regular eggs they might want to store, somehow...
  • keven2002keven2002 Posts: 2,706
    For starters... totally in agreement that it's past time to do something with the deco eggs... I re-subbed an account just to place a house for the deco eggs I was getting to hold over until we could turn in.... that house is now full and I'm forced to drop them on the ground because I can't do anything with them. I probably have 1k+ taking up room in an entire house with more locked down in my other homes. While I appreciate the Devs thinking (after the fact) about letting us turn them in; it should have been a fast follow and not something we need to wait for the next publish (who knows when that is... (likely next year?).

    Second, I'm not a fan of the mature egg drop rate, but I don't think judging the drop rate on deco eggs is a fair assessment. But to give some idea of "is 500 eggs a lot and should be enough for a mature egg?"... I've talked to a couple people who have multiple mature eggs for sale (which don't seem to be selling btw) and they are doing 75-100 massive maps a day, plus matriarchs. They have said it's streaky and definitely "RNG as its finest"; sometimes they go a couple days without a mature egg. I think the average massive nest has 6 deco eggs so if we go on the low side of the range provided (75 nests) that would be 450 eggs from nests alone and if we sprinkle in another 50 from the matriarch that's 500 on the "low side" of what I'd consider a power gamer. Again, a reminder that they said they will sometimes go days with a drop. If you apply that, the number 500 doesn't really seem all too low and actually sounds like is starting to get into the range of a drop.

    That all said, do I think that's too much RNG/grind for a mature egg with a random color; 100% yes but that seems to be what the current RNG/grind is. To put things into perspective for everyone, I've done well over 200 matriarchs (with multiple accounts) and have yet to see a single mature egg drop... meanwhile there are people that have a couple of eggs from the matriarch with the same or less rounds. It's all RNG; like it or not. 
  • gggghhhh0987gggghhhh0987 Posts: 27
    Again , If I say this is : Random Number Generator (abbreviation : RNG) , it is better to say this is : Artificial Player Residential Area Bias Generator (abbreviation : APRABG) ,  or it could be: "Discussion Forum Comment Reward and Punishment Generator," abbreviated as "DFCAPG"
  • gggghhhh0987gggghhhh0987 Posts: 27
    edited November 29
    or maybe is : it's only for  professional game cheat plug-in program studio's player assistance generator . Abbreviation
    : " GCSPAG"
  • gggghhhh0987gggghhhh0987 Posts: 27
    Regardless of the generator, for our casual players who real pay real play players , it's only a 0% drop rate too.
  • MariahMariah Posts: 3,649Moderator
    @keven2002 Maybe take into account that there possibly wasn't a plan to do anything with the eggs until players who don't collect 'sets' asked for it. In which case it would take a while to come up with a suitable mechanic for it and implement it?
    As to the eggs. I think most would hardly class me as a 'casual' player, but the RNG hates me too. I have stolen from boxes six effigies, in many hours of hunting boxes. The number of mature eggs I have found in boxes is ZERO. My RL luck is way below my UO luck. 
  • keven2002keven2002 Posts: 2,706
    I totally agree with the thought that the Deco egg turn in was something they thought of after the fact and I applaud their shift in that thought.

    That said, I don't think they need to come up with a suitable mechanic when they already have one available to them (and will likely be what they use); which is the same exact thing every "turn-in" mechanic has... there is a vendor that gives you points for each egg and you can select rewards from that vendor. 

    I think the biggest questions for me, aside from what are the rewards, would be if this vendor is going to be permanent or not.
  • MordeedMordeed Posts: 33
    I think the deco egg vendor will be the way to get nest maps after the event, so surely if the nests are permanent then the vendor will be ? 
  • gggghhhh0987gggghhhh0987 Posts: 27
    Why do some players have so many mature eggs that they could open a factory? Meanwhile, those of us who have invested just as much money and time in the game, the real players, don't have a single mature egg. It's really strange. Furthermore, when we genuine players leave comments or opinions in the discussion forum that the forum administrators might dislike, not only does the drop rate for any good items in the game immediately drop to 0%, and we are also constantly harassed or bothered secretly by people who appear to be administrators. This game is truly fair and just!!
  • PawainPawain Posts: 11,574
    edited December 1
     :D   That's Stax house.   He does Nests and Matriarch. I have sold him and given him many Nest maps.

    But most of those are from him buying in chat and selling on a safe for a higher price.

    You can talk to the stax bot at Luna Stable many hours a day.  So, putting your qualifications on him, yes he plays more than you so he should have more eggs.  He also spent hundreds of hours getting the Clydesdales, but like you said, he deserves them because he puts more hours in than you and I do.
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • Lord_NythraxLord_Nythrax Posts: 643
    gggghhhh0987 said:
    Furthermore, when we genuine players leave comments or opinions in the discussion forum that the forum administrators might dislike, not only does the drop rate for any good items in the game immediately drop to 0%, and we are also constantly harassed or bothered secretly by people who appear to be administrators.


  • poppspopps Posts: 4,370
    Pawain said:
     :D   That's Stax house.   He does Nests and Matriarch. I have sold him and given him many Nest maps.

    But most of those are from him buying in chat and selling on a safe for a higher price.

    You can talk to the stax bot at Luna Stable many hours a day.  So, putting your qualifications on him, yes he plays more than you so he should have more eggs.  He also spent hundreds of hours getting the Clydesdales, but like you said, he deserves them because he puts more hours in than you and I do.
    Considering the price for Mature eggs that I see in Chat, those 17 Mature eggs that I see in the picture, how many tens of platinums will have cost, if they were bought ?

  • poppspopps Posts: 4,370
    edited December 1
    Why do some players have so many mature eggs that they could open a factory? Meanwhile, those of us who have invested just as much money and time in the game, the real players, don't have a single mature egg. It's really strange. Furthermore, when we genuine players leave comments or opinions in the discussion forum that the forum administrators might dislike, not only does the drop rate for any good items in the game immediately drop to 0%, and we are also constantly harassed or bothered secretly by people who appear to be administrators. This game is truly fair and just!!

    Personally, I really do not understand why the mechanics for getting something in the game seem, at least to me, so much skewed to disadvantage the casual players who, I imagine, comprise the majority of the players' base of the game (and thus, the majority of its revenues) over hard core players who are a minority even though they might have multipe accounts and spend more time in the game...

    When casual players have it so hard to get things in the game, they might get "burnt out" from trying, and eventually get alienated from wanting to keep playing the game... I have read on the forums or in discord and heard in chat from casual players who, after uncovering lots and lots and lots of hidden chests or digging up hundreds and hundreds of Grand and Massive Maps (and wasting thousands upon thousands of drop points in the process, besides their time, also sacrificing for that, rewards that they also might want to claim from the turn in NPC over the course of this Event) and yet, still remaining empty handed, without that Mature Egg much seeked, and that they had enough of all that, that they were tired and demotivated, in two words, "burnt out"...

    My question is, how good is then such a mechanics for Ultima Online if it then risks alienating players from wanting to keep playing the game and getting "away" from the game, rather then closer to it ?

    Wouldn't it be better a "counter style" mechanics like the one for the Doom drops whereas, when a player fnds X Hidden Chests or X Nests Maps their chances at seeing that Mature egg go up, way up and they get that egg and then the counter resets for another run ?
  • MariahMariah Posts: 3,649Moderator
    Why do some players have so many mature eggs that they could open a factory? Meanwhile, those of us who have invested just as much money and time in the game, the real players, don't have a single mature egg. It's really strange. Furthermore, when we genuine players leave comments or opinions in the discussion forum that the forum administrators might dislike, not only does the drop rate for any good items in the game immediately drop to 0%, and we are also constantly harassed or bothered secretly by people who appear to be administrators. This game is truly fair and just!!
    Would you please send me a DM detailing who you believe to be 'forum administrators' who are preventing you from getting drops and secretly harassing you? 
    Because I, for sure, have not secretly harassed you and do not have a box full of mature eggs. 
  • RockoRocko Posts: 266
    Mariah said:
    @ keven2002 Maybe take into account that there possibly wasn't a plan to do anything with the eggs until players who don't collect 'sets' asked for it. In which case it would take a while to come up with a suitable mechanic for it and implement it?
    As to the eggs. I think most would hardly class me as a 'casual' player, but the RNG hates me too. I have stolen from boxes six effigies, in many hours of hunting boxes. The number of mature eggs I have found in boxes is ZERO. My RL luck is way below my UO luck. 
    Point reward systems are already in place (think clean up Britannia).  They could simply add eggs to that system and maybe add a couple new rewards.  Presumably the deco egg drops will continue after the current event ends.
    Former content creator for UO Stratics.
  • GrimbeardGrimbeard Posts: 3,329
    Black market !!!!!!
  • gggghhhh0987gggghhhh0987 Posts: 27
    Mariah said:
    Why do some players have so many mature eggs that they could open a factory? Meanwhile, those of us who have invested just as much money and time in the game, the real players, don't have a single mature egg. It's really strange. Furthermore, when we genuine players leave comments or opinions in the discussion forum that the forum administrators might dislike, not only does the drop rate for any good items in the game immediately drop to 0%, and we are also constantly harassed or bothered secretly by people who appear to be administrators. This game is truly fair and just!!
    Would you please send me a DM detailing who you believe to be 'forum administrators' who are preventing you from getting drops and secretly harassing you? 
    Because I, for sure, have not secretly harassed you and do not have a box full of mature eggs. 
    I'm not talking about you, before i say is: about some unknown individuals with GM-like abilities who are engaging in Quirky and bizarre harassment and disturbance behaviors against my character in the game (For example, there were a bunch of players in the event area, and some NPC monsters would only target my character and attack without attacking anyone else. Also, when farming the Dragon Nest, an NPC monster would spawn every per second. And when farming the Dragon queen, there would be 7 to 8 fireballs fired at me at the same time and from the same location in the same second, which would instantly kill me and cause me to lose over 200 HP.)—behaviors that only a GAME GM abilities could accomplish.There are also had many other quirky and unexpected situations that can't all be covered here.
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