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Suggestions for Season 2

IanIan Posts: 6
in New Legacy
I've really enjoyed playing NL the first season, and I'm looking forward to starting over. Here are some of the things I've really liked:
  • Congiarium is brilliant–it gives a flavor of the very early days of UO when players were underpowered
  • Alternative currencies are great (legendary foe points in particular were a stroke of genius)
  • Blackthorn’s gameplay loop is really fun (if maybe a little too easy at the end of the season)
  • Treasure hunting is fun–antiquities and heirlooms are great rewards
  • Inflation is relatively under control (although many items are bartered)
  • House upkeep requires players to actually play the game

Suggestions for Season Two

More Housing Options

Housing is core to UO. The 25 tiles inside a small house are not enough to express your vision for a home. I suggest allowing individuals to own small stone workshops and small marble workshops (70 tiles if I’m counting correctly). I think it’s reasonable to also allow individuals to own small stone towers. There’s plenty of space left for housing, those extra 7 tiles in the footprint won’t be missed. Add some other houses to the guild system if needed.

To help the economy, you could require a gold upkeep payment to the city for the privilege. Alternatively, if you have the dev effort, you could add a new item created by crafters with high board / ingot cost that is consumed for upkeep. A home repair kit that requires 2500 ingots and boards. Maybe you could buy this for an exorbitant amount from NPC architects as a gold sink.

Maker’s Mark on Exceptional Items

I’m surprised this one isn’t fixed by now because I think it was mentioned very early on in the development of NL. It’s so painful to identify exceptionally crafted items. Exceptional items aren’t particularly useful at non-zero levels of the Congiarium, but during the first month they are. Now’s the time to fix it: allow GM crafters to mark exceptional items.

Scale Pet Base Damage with Congiarium Level

Warrior, archer and mage DPS scales with Congiarium level, but pets provide full damage. The only thing that prevents a tamer from doing Dragon Wolf level DPS at the zeroth Congiarium level is access to 100 legendary foe points. To fix this mismatch, I recommend scaling pet base damage with Congiarium level. Admittedly, this might be a tricky dev lift, but 50-75% at level zero sounds reasonable.

Improve Crafted Gear

The quality of exceptional gear should scale with Congiarium level. With how plentiful magic items are and how hard it is to craft exceptional armor, I’m not convinced exceptional gear should be worse. At the very least, exceptional gear should be one level behind the Congiarium. Ideally, it should be the same (with invulnerability / vanquishing gear only from legendary foes). Maybe there could a very rare chance to create exceptional gear with +1 resist cap -1 DCI to differentiate crafted gear. This might create demand for skilled crafters to make specific suits for specific fights. If you tie the resist to the ingot, then there’s also a reason for the mining gameplay loop.

Slow Congiarium Progression?

Personally, I think the game is most fun at the earlier Congiarium levels. You could consider slowing the progression to 45 days per level.

Staged Addition of Legendary Foes with Congiarium Level?

One of the best parts about early NL development was constant addition of new cool bosses. You could sort of re-create that feeling by tying some bosses to Congiarium level. For example, you could re-use Oaks, Mephitis, and Semidar and add them to overland T2A. I have a sneaking suspicion someone was planning Abyssal Infernal and Primeval Lich too. Add one per Congiarium level automatically so people have something to look forward to.


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  • keven2002keven2002 Posts: 2,621
    edited September 2
    Ian said:

    Slow Congiarium Progression?

    Personally, I think the game is most fun at the earlier Congiarium levels. You could consider slowing the progression to 45 days per level.


    No thank you. 

    I started NL when it launched and quickly lost interest when the best item I could get was X of might/ruin or Y of guarding because everything is that much more of a grind. Especially when we are talking for magery and there isn't any LRC so reags become costly very quickly... needing to cast 5x more spells quickly starts to cut into the reagent supply. Knowing that I'd have to wait however long for things to level made it an easy choice to just sit on the sidelines not playing NL until the highest levels were available.

    I picked NL back up in the past week and am having much more fun being able to do more stuff without a large party (ie treasure chests) given there is now Vanq level items. 
  • ZekeTerraZekeTerra Posts: 408
    No Stamina block please.  It's been terrible on NL since the last publish with all the players and their pets fighting the Commanders, Harbingers and Victor Blackthorn.
  • AtomicBettyAtomicBetty Posts: 333
    Everything not blessed should go on the corpse when you die.  Losing armor and replacing it with crafted gear should be a core element of new legacy.
  • PawainPawain Posts: 11,275
    AtomicBetty said:
    Everything not blessed should go on the corpse when you die.  Losing armor and replacing it with crafted gear should be a core element of new legacy.
    How many times have you done repairs for me.  My guys can play 2 rounds of city and victor and their items are at 0.  Even items in your backpack wear out!

    Until there are enough crafters to repair items, we don't need to wait on someone to make items for us every other day.I

    Or you want to go prodo method and everyone have a crafter and we don't interact.
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • LokeaLokea Posts: 313
    Pawain said:

    Until there are enough crafters to repair items, we don't need to wait on someone to make items for us every other day.I

    Or you want to go prodo method and everyone have a crafter and we don't interact.
    I’ve been shocked at the number of people that I’ve been interacting with as a crafter in NL.  I’ve been away for a few days, but I know when I hop back on and ask if anybody needs repairs, 
    l will get a line of people.  
  • PawainPawain Posts: 11,275
    edited October 1
    Exactly!  Have to have some that will help others.  

    Are they calling out cities and bosses while I'm on vacation?   I see few, other than I that will do it.

    Thanks for repairing my guys once!  They are returning in need of repairs.
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • keven2002keven2002 Posts: 2,621
    Pawain said:
    Exactly!  Have to have some that will help others.  

    Are they calling out cities and bosses while I'm on vacation?   I see few, other than I that will do it.

    Thanks for repairing my guys once!  They are returning in need of repairs.

    Yea people are still giving the cities when asked in GenChat. I usually answer when I'm doing the cities but others do the same. It's the same for doing other bosses like CD/Ice/Vey/etc.

    I think one improvement that should be implemented next season @Community Manager is there be some sort of location that gives status on world bosses...especially when we have to run to those locations. Perfect place would be BT Dungeon where all those orbs are now...have the orb lit when the boss is active and dark when it's not. Same thing with BT itself; give like a "60min until this begins" timer.... can't tell you how many times I log in and have no idea how long since Victor or BT was done and need to rely on people in chat (some guessing the time lol). 

    I'm not sure if the fractured veil event would be done again but if it is, same thing applies here... would be nice to now when I log in if we are on city 2 of 4 OR 4 of 4 OR Victor Blackthorn is up OR he was just killed 20min again and that won't happen for another 40min so find something else to do. This is probably the most common question I see in GenChat; "what town # was that" OR "how long ago was VB done?". The next one is probably "how long ago was BT done?" OR "anyone doing BT?". I think BT is the most tricky because people try to cherry pick (ie sneak) the Blizzard and General before anyone else gets there so they improve their chances at getting a desired drop.
  • PawainPawain Posts: 11,275
    Great idea for the orbs.  They would fit the Lore. Telling where the baddies are.
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • ParallaxParallax Posts: 26Dev
    keven2002 said:
    Pawain said:
    Exactly!  Have to have some that will help others.  

    Are they calling out cities and bosses while I'm on vacation?   I see few, other than I that will do it.

    Thanks for repairing my guys once!  They are returning in need of repairs.

    Yea people are still giving the cities when asked in GenChat. I usually answer when I'm doing the cities but others do the same. It's the same for doing other bosses like CD/Ice/Vey/etc.

    I think one improvement that should be implemented next season @ "Community Manager" is there be some sort of location that gives status on world bosses...especially when we have to run to those locations. Perfect place would be BT Dungeon where all those orbs are now...have the orb lit when the boss is active and dark when it's not. Same thing with BT itself; give like a "60min until this begins" timer.... can't tell you how many times I log in and have no idea how long since Victor or BT was done and need to rely on people in chat (some guessing the time lol). 

    I'm not sure if the fractured veil event would be done again but if it is, same thing applies here... would be nice to now when I log in if we are on city 2 of 4 OR 4 of 4 OR Victor Blackthorn is up OR he was just killed 20min again and that won't happen for another 40min so find something else to do. This is probably the most common question I see in GenChat; "what town # was that" OR "how long ago was VB done?". The next one is probably "how long ago was BT done?" OR "anyone doing BT?". I think BT is the most tricky because people try to cherry pick (ie sneak) the Blizzard and General before anyone else gets there so they improve their chances at getting a desired drop.

    Town Criers will bark out the current town being invaded if you approach them!

    Also, you can see the current state of the Fractured Veil event by visiting the Antechamber leading to Victor's Sanctum! The braziers will light when that Harbinger has been defeated.


    In recent publishes, we've made efforts to try and make sure everyone is informed when events progress or cycle by providing system messages. While some kind of literal "This event will reset in exactly 3 minutes" is likely off the table, I do have some plans to try and incorporate a more thematic approach to boss and event timers in S2, such as some kind of messaging that would give you a general idea of the reset period, or a visual indicator like the braziers above.
  • PawainPawain Posts: 11,275
    edited October 1
    @Parallax the town Cryer sticks on the last city done until a new one begins. He always says a city.  

    Needs changed to the mechanics that the ones in prodo use.  They say that no city is being invaded when there is no active invasion.

    Spending time running to the Victor area is a cop out. Sorry.  Put a rune obelisk in the sand if that is how you expect us to check the status.

    Or put the braziers in Moonglow. That is cool how they light.
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • Petra_FydePetra_Fyde Posts: 1,532
    Maybe let Elidyr tend the braziers in Moonglow?
    It would be handy if the town crier stopped calling us to a city once the gate to the harbinger from that city had closed.
  • keven2002keven2002 Posts: 2,621
    Thanks for the response @Parallax! I'd echo what others have said; the town crier doesn't give true up to date info... it says a town until the next town starts.... even if VB has been done it will say "Invasion in [last town]" for an hour until the new town starts. This confuses people.

    While I appreciate the tip about the brazier lighting (very cool idea and I did NOT know that); I'd agree with Pawain and Petra that placing that in T2A where we need to run 5min to get there and run 5min to get back isn't a great design IMO... having it in a easy to recall spot just to check would be my preference because if I log in and want to "check the status" by running 5min to see the braziers; I might actually miss the Harry that might just have started before I logged in. 

    I can see your perspective for not adding something like "Crimson Dragon restarts in 23 min"; fair enough, but I do think for something like BT where it's 2hrs and change there should be some sort of status to when it will start given it's longer than an hour.... or going back to my original request, give us a quick/easy to see status of what is currently up. I've run through BT over a dozen times looking to see what Dreadguards are up... only for nothing to be up OR the PODs be the only thing up. Again, it becomes a waste of 10min in the case where BT is completely done. 

    Thanks again for the dialogue! 
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