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Mesanna. can you explain how a player can legally tow 2nd,3rd,4th,5th,6th,7th,8th,9th,10th char?

JackFlashUkJackFlashUk Posts: 1,009
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I would like to know how this is done

So Auto follow?

AUTO ATTACK

Ah so thats auto follow out

How are these players not actioned on sight?  CLEARLY illegal

@Mesanna  if I am missing something could you explain or demonstrate how we do this? Shame that only a few players have the knowledge to do this

This is not a classic uo new client thing as its been going on for literally years

Can this be added to EC client please

Even the playing field

OR BAN THEM FOR CHEATING

Thank you

Apart for the predictable bot cheating, this event is AMAZING!

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  • PawainPawain Posts: 10,019
    They are attended, sitting at their PC and they can answer any questions.

    I don't condone this but facts are facts.  I have had a gaming station for over 20 years, I could live at it if I wanted to.  My son returned his dorm fridge so that is within 5 feet of me now.  Try some brez and chill.
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • marcmarc Posts: 11
    What they are doing is legal as long as multi client is allowed. We should start a petition to ban multi client. A ban on multi client would end the bot armies.
  • Lord_NythraxLord_Nythrax Posts: 407
    Yeah it's completely stupid and other games ban for it. Freeshards ban for it. It's pathetic the way the team here rolls over for it.
  • PawainPawain Posts: 10,019
    So I can only play one account according to yall. Whether it be bank sitting or whatever.  Nice scam.  I pay the same amount per account as you.
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • OreoglOreogl Posts: 435
    Pawain said:
    So I can only play one account according to yall. Whether it be bank sitting or whatever.  Nice scam.  I pay the same amount per account as you.
    Sure, playing a couple accounts is one thing, but why do you need or want to play 10?


  • PawainPawain Posts: 10,019
    Oreogl said:
    Pawain said:
    So I can only play one account according to yall. Whether it be bank sitting or whatever.  Nice scam.  I pay the same amount per account as you.
    Sure, playing a couple accounts is one thing, but why do you need or want to play 10?


    I have sloth like reflexes. 3 at a time at a boss is all I can do.

    I'm sure others are more coordinated.
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • OreoglOreogl Posts: 435
    Pawain said:
    Oreogl said:
    Pawain said:
    So I can only play one account according to yall. Whether it be bank sitting or whatever.  Nice scam.  I pay the same amount per account as you.
    Sure, playing a couple accounts is one thing, but why do you need or want to play 10?


    I have sloth like reflexes. 3 at a time at a boss is all I can do.

    I'm sure others are more coordinated.
    Ah, gotcha.


  • JackFlashUkJackFlashUk Posts: 1,009
    ok

    We ALL know they are NOT multi clienting.  Just stop it

    They are multi boxing using an illegal 3rd party script/program/client. whatever its called

    you CANNOT auto target/attack all whilst multi clienting 

    Whether its on 3 monitors etc like I do with EC and Pinco, you have to select EACH acct to interact

    You can auto follow in the 2D client

    This is NOT what is happening 

    this players are towing multiply chars and they re ALL ATTACKING AS ONE

    I will NOT accept any attempt to convince me otherwise

    So my question to @Mesanna still stands


    Until you get to the bottom of this, please disable auto follow

    Lets see how these human octopuses can control all these chars


  • PawainPawain Posts: 10,019
    Email her instead of acting like some board warrior on a Mission, your posts like this are more annoying than the Bots.
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • JackFlashUkJackFlashUk Posts: 1,009
    I have 3 paid accounts on 3 monitors

    I multi client

    I have to select EACH monitor in turn to control my chars


    This is NOT what multi boxing is

    You cannot control more than 1 acct at once legally

    These players are using an illegal program to ensure ALL accounts act as one

    Please just get your head around this

    1. Multi Client  LEGAL, unsupported (in my case 3 paid accounts)

    2. Multi Client 2D with auto follow   LEGAL

    3. Multi Box.  ILLEGAL

    You can see the difference. I cannot understand after all these years that this has NOT been stopped

    All that happens is the game and players have FIXES that negatively affect legal players (shard bound etc) Yet the cheats stop operate

    COME ON DEV's. SORT IT OUT

    EJ accounts able to attend? or are they blocked as well

    Are the multi boxers are dragging EJ accts as well?  so no $$$$$$$$ for BS?
  • JackFlashUkJackFlashUk Posts: 1,009

    Oreogl said:
    Pawain said:
    So I can only play one account according to yall. Whether it be bank sitting or whatever.  Nice scam.  I pay the same amount per account as you.
    Sure, playing a couple accounts is one thing, but why do you need or want to play 10?


    RMT illegal sellers
  • JackFlashUkJackFlashUk Posts: 1,009
    Pawain said:
    Email her instead of acting like some board warrior on a Mission, your posts like this are more annoying than the Bots.
    10,000 POSTS!!!!!! go you!  I noticed :)




  • JackFlashUkJackFlashUk Posts: 1,009
    edited November 22

  • GrimbeardGrimbeard Posts: 2,274
    JackFlashUk said:
    Pawain said:
    Email her instead of acting like some board warrior on a Mission, your posts like this are more annoying than the Bots.
    10,000 POSTS!!!!!! go you!  I noticed :)




    Yeah but 8765 of them are arguing with me 
  • JackFlashUkJackFlashUk Posts: 1,009
    lol

  • creampiecreampie Posts: 105
    JackFlashUk said:
    I would like to know how this is done

    So Auto follow?

    AUTO ATTACK

    Ah so thats auto follow out

    How are these players not actioned on sight?  CLEARLY illegal

    @ Mesanna  if I am missing something could you explain or demonstrate how we do this? Shame that only a few players have the knowledge to do this

    This is not a classic uo new client thing as its been going on for literally years

    Can this be added to EC client please

    Even the playing field

    OR BAN THEM FOR CHEATING

    Thank you

    Apart for the predictable bot cheating, this event is AMAZING!


    one day you will stop posting repeat threads about this. attended maccroing is legal in ultima online osi shard.
  • Lord_NythraxLord_Nythrax Posts: 407
    JackFlashUk said:
    ok

    We ALL know they are NOT multi clienting.  Just stop it

    They are multi boxing using an illegal 3rd party script/program/client. whatever its called

    you CANNOT auto target/attack all whilst multi clienting 

    Whether its on 3 monitors etc like I do with EC and Pinco, you have to select EACH acct to interact

    You can auto follow in the 2D client

    This is NOT what is happening 

    this players are towing multiply chars and they re ALL ATTACKING AS ONE

    I will NOT accept any attempt to convince me otherwise

    So my question to @ Mesanna still stands


    Until you get to the bottom of this, please disable auto follow

    Lets see how these human octopuses can control all these chars



    I agree with this dude. We all see the gaggles of coordinated characters at these events. The gaslighting isn't cutting it.
  • JackFlashUkJackFlashUk Posts: 1,009
    edited November 22
    creampie said:
    I would like to know how this is done

    So Auto follow?

    AUTO ATTACK

    Ah so thats auto follow out

    How are these players not actioned on sight?  CLEARLY illegal

    @ Mesanna  if I am missing something could you explain or demonstrate how we do this? Shame that only a few players have the knowledge to do this

    This is not a classic uo new client thing as its been going on for literally years

    Can this be added to EC client please

    Even the playing field

    OR BAN THEM FOR CHEATING

    Thank you

    Apart for the predictable bot cheating, this event is AMAZING!


    one day you will stop posting repeat threads about this. attended maccroing is legal in ultima online osi shard.
    That is NOT what is happened and you know it

    You can auto follow, but you cannot have accts automated whilst controlling another acct

    YOU CAN'T

    If you are fighting with one acct and they others are auto targeting and hitting its an illegal program running it. you cannot be in control of all clients at once, they are all hitting and acting as one

    You know this, are you running an illegal client?

    is this why YOU seem to contest what I am saying?

    Pop onto Youtube and create a video of you "macroing" multiple accts with UOA, educate us please
    Show us how you can instantly switch from acct to acct so seamlessly and fast that it appears like you are not controlling multiple accts with one keystroke

    I will wait here, convince me
  • PsycoderTooPsycoderToo Posts: 44
    I don't care what anyone does as long as it does not effect my game play.

    I'm even ok with people having 100+ account. As long as they are paying accounts and covering the expenses.

    In this case, if devs find that it's the number of players, not the number of monsters, that is causing the lag then they should take action against those accounts.

    If they are not the cause of the lag, I don't mind them. All I see is that the more people selling items, the cheaper it will be for everyone buying.
  • psychopsycho Posts: 336

    I wouldnt wory too much about the trains of 3 chars or 10.  They work hard keeping all alive and stuff.

    But what I would wory about is all the scripters running around as solo sampires, clearly scripted.  I mean just take a look at the teleporter in Jhelom where they all get stuck. This is because scripting and 3rd party clients are allowed in this game. I see the same ones as appear every dynamic event.

    oh did I say that loud, I think I just did.


  • JackFlashUkJackFlashUk Posts: 1,009
    PsycoderToo said:
    I don't care what anyone does as long as it does not effect my game play.

    I'm even ok with people having 100+ account. As long as they are paying accounts and covering the expenses.

    In this case, if devs find that it's the number of players, not the number of monsters, that is causing the lag then they should take action against those accounts.

    If they are not the cause of the lag, I don't mind them. All I see is that the more people selling items, the cheaper it will be for everyone buying.
    I suspect the accts in tow are EJ so they are not generating $$$$$$$

    I dont think I read the tEJ are blocked from events?

    If they are then its paid accts that are running illegal mutlibox programs,  I for one wont miss them 
  • PawainPawain Posts: 10,019
    edited November 22
    I don't care what anyone does as long as it does not effect my game play.

    I'm even ok with people having 100+ account. As long as they are paying accounts and covering the expenses.

    In this case, if devs find that it's the number of players, not the number of monsters, that is causing the lag then they should take action against those accounts.

    If they are not the cause of the lag, I don't mind them. All I see is that the more people selling items, the cheaper it will be for everyone buying.
    I suspect the accts in tow are EJ so they are not generating $$$$$$$

    I dont think I read the tEJ are blocked from events?

    If they are then its paid accts that are running illegal mutlibox programs,  I for one wont miss them 
    EJ accounts get account bound drops and the items they buy are account bound unless they pay to become a paid account.  Then they can't go back to EJ for like 4 months.

    So, these are paid accounts yall are seeing.  Or they are ignorant of the mechanics.
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • OreoglOreogl Posts: 435
    JackFlashUk said:

    Oreogl said:
    Pawain said:
    So I can only play one account according to yall. Whether it be bank sitting or whatever.  Nice scam.  I pay the same amount per account as you.
    Sure, playing a couple accounts is one thing, but why do you need or want to play 10?


    RMT illegal sellers
    Well I figured but I’m just another guy mashing buttons in a game getting close to 30 years old.

    still trying to get a mask off a grim.  RNG sucks sometimes.
  • keven2002keven2002 Posts: 2,263
    psycho said:

    I wouldnt wory too much about the trains of 3 chars or 10.  They work hard keeping all alive and stuff.

    But what I would wory about is all the scripters running around as solo sampires, clearly scripted.  I mean just take a look at the teleporter in Jhelom where they all get stuck. This is because scripting and 3rd party clients are allowed in this game. I see the same ones as appear every dynamic event.

    oh did I say that loud, I think I just did.



    Kind of skipping a lot of the thread and saying that you nailed it. The unattended macroing isn't the big problem (but yes there is some of that in this event), there is someone piloting the 4-6 accounts that can answer on every account.

    The problem, like it is every single event, is that people are multiboxing (not multiclienting) using illegal third party programs/scripts. At this point, it's a worn out topic and obviously nothing is really going to be done about it. We might as well just feed the scripters and allow the regular non-scripting players enough left overs so that we can eat too...aka bump the spawn up and let the drops rain like candy. In my opinion, that's the only realistic option at this point.
  • creampiecreampie Posts: 105
    keven2002 said:
    psycho said:

    I wouldnt wory too much about the trains of 3 chars or 10.  They work hard keeping all alive and stuff.

    But what I would wory about is all the scripters running around as solo sampires, clearly scripted.  I mean just take a look at the teleporter in Jhelom where they all get stuck. This is because scripting and 3rd party clients are allowed in this game. I see the same ones as appear every dynamic event.

    oh did I say that loud, I think I just did.



    Kind of skipping a lot of the thread and saying that you nailed it. The unattended macroing isn't the big problem (but yes there is some of that in this event), there is someone piloting the 4-6 accounts that can answer on every account.

    The problem, like it is every single event, is that people are multiboxing (not multiclienting) using illegal third party programs/scripts. At this point, it's a worn out topic and obviously nothing is really going to be done about it. We might as well just feed the scripters and allow the regular non-scripting players enough left overs so that we can eat too...aka bump the spawn up and let the drops rain like candy. In my opinion, that's the only realistic option at this point.

    i cant beleive some people after all those years dont know the difference about multiboxing and attended maccroing. multiboxing is every character pile and up and do the exact same command on every accounts at the same time run by a main account. multiclienting everyone in a guild on auto follow on the leader and doing many separate command and able to respond to a gm isnt multiboxing yeah could look really annoying but 100% legall
  • usernameusername Posts: 850
    edited November 23
    psycho said:

    I wouldnt wory too much about the trains of 3 chars or 10.  They work hard keeping all alive and stuff.

    But what I would wory about is all the scripters running around as solo sampires, clearly scripted.  I mean just take a look at the teleporter in Jhelom where they all get stuck. This is because scripting and 3rd party clients are allowed in this game. I see the same ones as appear every dynamic event.

    oh did I say that loud, I think I just did.


    Yea, I gotta agree here.

    The attended guy towing around a handful of characters for a city or two isn't a problem... even if it's only semi-manual gameplay with some sort of attack script at least they're attended. And honestly towing around more than one character seems to be a waste. They're likely not getting banned because they are attended and auto follow is a legal thing. 

    I've also seen people complain about the people that are sitting still with a few characters on top of the bonfire things. That's so inefficient and they really are just good for luring paragons and having them help kill.

    If you're trying to be honest with everyone and really against cheating @JackFlashUk  THE REAL ISSUE IS THE 300 SAMPIRES RUNNING AROUND LIKE ARMY ANTS THAT ARE 100% UNATTENDED AND BOTS RAN 24/7. Focus your efforts there, these bot armies are the actual problem, always have been.


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  • usernameusername Posts: 850
    JackFlashUk said:
    I would like to know how this is done

    @ Mesanna  if I am missing something could you explain or demonstrate how we do this? Shame that only a few players have the knowledge to do this

    I'd like to know how I can go to sleep and wake up with my army of sampires turned in 1000 points and auto repair suits. That'd be more interesting.
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  • KroDuKKroDuK Posts: 407
    edited November 23
    @JackFlashUk those sampire have way better script than just auto attack..

    2 days ago.. I had this Suidoken red put on auto following me on Felluca.. I went into one of their sampies bots (it was inside a building.. moving by itself and killing stuff.. that red guy was on the auto follow for a good 45+min in this town (since i was not trying to get him killed into mobs he was not attending his red like he should)
    I went in the building next to the sampire.. the sampire AoE touch the red guy.. and his bot went into a frenzy and start chassing and pounding the red guy.. the time I switch for a splintering weapon and start chassing them.. the red guy with frame skipping speed hacking would have left us (the samp bot and I) in the dust..

    After that.. the next city invasion no more of the ~12 sampies bots.. it took ~2 hours before they came back with a new script for their bots to avoid that same situation (no more AoE on the bots.. only on their main attended samp when they not controlling their red).. This is 3 guys playing on their red while their ~12 sampies bots cleaning the town.. moving and auto attacking.. sometime u find one of them bot dead cuz of the pathing problem on their bots (it can stay dead for a good 15+minutes when their red are not out cuz it's clearly unattended and botting)


    At some point I was going on trammel (before i went to war against them on felluca) i've seen a sampire with his 2 garg thrower auto follow and auto attacking everything on sight (say what u want this is botting/ auto attack)

    I'm like WTF.. and call that guy out on general.. the guy did something very funny but totally sad for the game.. that shows the mismanagement; he put one of his two garg thrower on me and answer back.. LOOK KRO IS BOTTING! LOOK, LOOK!
    I had his garg following me on trammel attacking everything around me instead of him... I was like i won't even try to get it killed.. this is trammel and 100% griefing lets page a GM (nothing happen)

    After that I did a post here saying bots took over our events.. and came back ~3 hours later determine to win back felluca from those 3 reds.. if u wanna bot go on trammel.. i won't let 3 scrubs bots this heretic event felluca side on my watch.. so far I did a good job.. they MAD! ^^

    PS: yesterday (day3) I was alone in felluca for ~80% of my grind.. the day 2 i ridicule and keep those 3 cheater busy enough to teach them a lesson.
    So rather than recognise the effort the botters went to, to set all that up - for the benefit of the players, to help get certain items, something you could never be bothered to do, you would rather drag people backwards to your neanderthal world?
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  • MariahMariah Posts: 3,243Moderator
    We get so many of these threads, I'm not quite sure there's any point to keep repeating them. 
    I have even seen my own character in general chat described as a bot, simply because she is a warrior (NOT a sampire) on a swamp dragon!
    Some sampires are bots, accepted. Some players like to tow around a second character using CC's follow ability. Some players are not bots at all, but are assumed to be by cynical players who see bots everywhere.
    Remember that only one EJ per ip address is allowed now, so it is unlikely these characters are EJ.

    So, can we keep this thread polite, without personal attacks on players, or on Devs please? if not, I will be forced to close it.
  • JackFlashUkJackFlashUk Posts: 1,009
    Mariah,

    What is the point of towing a melee char around with you?

    They are not just towing,  they have auto target working, so they are all swinging at the same target as the same time,  no human can switch accts that fast

    we all know that the towed chars are NOT auto follow 

    Breakneck speed
    Never get stuck
    All hitting at the same time

    This is not auto follow
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