How to make money now

monkgamer

i dont get the failing magery part..whats that got to do with doing shrine battles

Pawain

Att 100 Magery you fail trying to make Energy Vortexes a lot.  If it is a big group you need to do damage.

monkgamer

ahh ok thanks. lots of good info. but now i  curious what method jadav is hiding lol

jadav

monkgamer said:

i dont get the failing magery part..whats that got to do with doing shrine battles

Nothing at all, when i started to do shrines, i had 50ish eval, 85 magery (used +15 magery book to get to 100)

I never casted any EVs, i massed healed people and their pets, and if i had mana i would cast spells on the captains.

Some of the captains you can mana vamp, to get extra mana, but not all of them.

You dont have to deal with the spawn either, just stick around the tamers n samps, keep them alive, and u get loot rights. In general just be the super nice guy, that heals n cures everyone.

Also focus on ressing people, they will do most of the work for u, and they will love u for it, even thou u will fail a lot with only 100 magery.

Now go out and make some gold

And yes i sold most of my tabards for 75-100mill, but there are still a nice profit to be had.

I also do the shrines now and then, because it's good fun

Kirthag

popps said:

@ Kirthag

This is exactly what I do. I'm a "pure paladin" who doesn't use masteries.

May I ask if there is any particular reason as to why not use Masteries ?

Am (was) a hardcore RPer in Sosaria.
The masteries do not fit in with the character.

Besides, makes for a more challenging game, eh?

It is not about getting every skill/cap/item for me. In a sandbox game, its the experience of the content - which is why I get kinda frustrated with your dissertative questions here in the forum. A lot of what you quest for can be experienced in the game and (for me) offers a more meaningful end than having the devs or other players explain to me. 

I used to RP a pure barbarian who distrusted any form of magic (even those from the gods). Staying true to character, Kirthag would avoid mages - even swore to kill a few just for magically lighting a campfire. However, many years of RPing with certain people on Napa and Kirthag has.... matured --- metamorphed actually --- into a being less chaotic and more as a servant to others around her. In this, she found "faith" and believes in a living, uniting power which she can muster from time to time as a paladin. However, she still doesn't believe it is totally benevolent, which is why she still uses bandages and will not adopt masteries.  Makes for interesting pvp I tell ya.

Kirthag, being my main character, is really a very old character (created for D&D back in 1980..). She has been through all sorts of games, campaigns, and worlds. Sosaria is the one place where she thrives - so I identify as her a lot here. That is not to say that I do not have other characters/toons which use masteries, but they are ... a mystery.


I digress... this thread is not about the reasons or playstyle of an old-skool Sosarian who laments good RP within the game. Is about making gold, eh?

Theo

If you want scrolls why not do champ spawns?  They are pretty easy to solo. Far easier than peerless.  Then you have the scrolls you desire.     If not, then how about other content to acquire things you can sell for the scrolls you desire?    If you want to pure gold farm - try Miasma, Swoop or the Undead Guardians.  Bring a bag of sending and make 20k every 5 minutes.  I hunt Miasma for tmaps and it drops in like 5 hits with a sampire and drops 2400 gold and insta spawns.  

It will take time to make millions but you can also sell the tmaps.  Those are Hoard level maps and you should be able to sell for 50k each (from the boxes it drops).  With the gold and the maps you should be able to clear 300-500k an hour depending on box drops. Is that not fast enough?

Edit : I ran a fun test for you. 20 minutes exactly at Miasma. 

• Looted 120k gold (40k x 3 times on the bag of sending). 
• Got a fun legendary bracelet
• got a piece of greymist armor
• 2 marties (robe of eclipse and bloodwood spirit)
• looted a cache map along with 4 chests that contain Hoard Maps at 50k each

So thats 120k gold plus at least 200k (50k x 4 maps) of items for 320k in 20 minutes.  That translates to 1m per hour.    

Also after opening chests - trashed 51 items plus chests for 751 turn in points.  1k points is a Mannequin deed that sells for 300k or so. Get 2 per hour.  Thats another 600k.   So all told - 1.6m per hour.  

KHAN

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monkgamer

Thanks all. I been looking into the plunder orc thingies..since I hot High seas now. It says a mythical cargo is worth 10 mil gold, but a triton is 140k dubloons..but tritons sell for 14 mil or so. I don't get how getting a triton is worth it if the mythical is worth 10 mil, thus 14 of those is 140 mil?

popps

Theo said:

If you want scrolls why not do champ spawns?  They are pretty easy to solo. Far easier than peerless.  Then you have the scrolls you desire.     If not, then how about other content to acquire things you can sell for the scrolls you desire?    If you want to pure gold farm - try Miasma, Swoop or the Undead Guardians.  Bring a bag of sending and make 20k every 5 minutes.  I hunt Miasma for tmaps and it drops in like 5 hits with a sampire and drops 2400 gold and insta spawns.  

It will take time to make millions but you can also sell the tmaps.  Those are Hoard level maps and you should be able to sell for 50k each (from the boxes it drops).  With the gold and the maps you should be able to clear 300-500k an hour depending on box drops. Is that not fast enough?

Edit : I ran a fun test for you. 20 minutes exactly at Miasma. 

• Looted 120k gold (40k x 3 times on the bag of sending). 
• Got a fun legendary bracelet
• got a piece of greymist armor
• 2 marties (robe of eclipse and bloodwood spirit)
• looted a cache map along with 4 chests that contain Hoard Maps at 50k each

So thats 120k gold plus at least 200k (50k x 4 maps) of items for 320k in 20 minutes.  That translates to 1m per hour.    

Also after opening chests - trashed 51 items plus chests for 751 turn in points.  1k points is a Mannequin deed that sells for 300k or so. Get 2 per hour.  Thats another 600k.   So all told - 1.6m per hour.  

@Theo

Do all of Mondain's Legacy "Named Creatures" Chests contain a Mannequin Deed ?

That is a novelty for me, I had no idea that inside the Chests that Named Creatures from Mondain's Legacy drop, could be found Mannequin deeds....

Mariah

Chests do not contain mannequin deeds, Theo was explaining that he got 751 clean up points, which is close to enough to claim a mannequin from clean up, at a cost of 1000 clean up points.

WornOutYourTool

Go to the casino, high mid low game.  Aside from crafting suits and weapons, that's where I made all my gold.

Theo

Mariah said:

Chests do not contain mannequin deeds, Theo was explaining that he got 751 clean up points, which is close to enough to claim a mannequin from clean up, at a cost of 1000 clean up points.

Correct.  751 points for 20 minutes x 3 = Over 2,000 points per hour.  Mannequin deeds are available from Clean up Brit for 1,000 points so you can get 2 per hour.  They are worth at least 100k on a vendor up to 200k depending on shard.  

That was part of my point - when you go out hunting look for ALL the things that can make you cash.  You will find you can generate 2x or 3x as much gold as you think.  Kill dragons? Loot the gems and cut the hides.  You can sell barbed leather for 40gp per.  In fel a regular dragon drops 40 (1600 gold) and a greater drops 60 (2400 gold of leather).   Add that to the 2k it drops plus another 1k in gems and you can get 4-6k per dragon.  That adds up pretty fast.  

monkgamer

A cassino? where is that? seems like a great place to lose what little ive made so far lol

also, great tips theo thanks, didn't know leather sold that much now

Mariah

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Merus

Theo said:

Mariah said:

Chests do not contain mannequin deeds, Theo was explaining that he got 751 clean up points, which is close to enough to claim a mannequin from clean up, at a cost of 1000 clean up points.

Correct.  751 points for 20 minutes x 3 = Over 2,000 points per hour.  Mannequin deeds are available from Clean up Brit for 1,000 points so you can get 2 per hour.  They are worth at least 100k on a vendor up to 200k depending on shard.  

That was part of my point - when you go out hunting look for ALL the things that can make you cash.  You will find you can generate 2x or 3x as much gold as you think.  Kill dragons? Loot the gems and cut the hides.  You can sell barbed leather for 40gp per.  In fel a regular dragon drops 40 (1600 gold) and a greater drops 60 (2400 gold of leather).   Add that to the 2k it drops plus another 1k in gems and you can get 4-6k per dragon.  That adds up pretty fast.  

Of course most of your suggestion is heavily skewed.  The vast majority of the time Miasma does not drop 4 chests in 20 minutes.  Not that she isn’t still a good place to make money, but your figures are heavily inflated.  I would say it much more likely that it’s somewhere closer to 4 per hour, not 12.

Garth_Grey

Merus said:

Theo said:

Mariah said:

Chests do not contain mannequin deeds, Theo was explaining that he got 751 clean up points, which is close to enough to claim a mannequin from clean up, at a cost of 1000 clean up points.

Correct.  751 points for 20 minutes x 3 = Over 2,000 points per hour.  Mannequin deeds are available from Clean up Brit for 1,000 points so you can get 2 per hour.  They are worth at least 100k on a vendor up to 200k depending on shard.  

That was part of my point - when you go out hunting look for ALL the things that can make you cash.  You will find you can generate 2x or 3x as much gold as you think.  Kill dragons? Loot the gems and cut the hides.  You can sell barbed leather for 40gp per.  In fel a regular dragon drops 40 (1600 gold) and a greater drops 60 (2400 gold of leather).   Add that to the 2k it drops plus another 1k in gems and you can get 4-6k per dragon.  That adds up pretty fast.  

Of course most of your suggestion is heavily skewed.  The vast majority of the time Miasma does not drop 4 chests in 20 minutes.  Not that she isn’t still a good place to make money, but your figures are heavily inflated.  I would say it much more likely that it’s somewhere closer to 4 per hour, not 12.

Not to mention it's the perfect example of counting your chickens before they hatch. It's not like buyers are standing behind you with gold in hand, waiting for you to sell them all of those items to them as you earn them. Once you've farmed now you've got to play the waiting game to sell all of those items in an already overly saturated market.

sibble

I think another part of this is new players not understanding what loot is good and what is bad - which is really only learned by playing the game.

I'm a returning veteran already having knowledge of armor/weapon values.

I walked into Shame, killed something and got a semi-useful lesser artifact off the very first kill that could probably sell for 1-3m, which resulted in being trashed as trading such a cheap item was not worth my time.

That was my 10-minute returning experience.

New players obviously won't have the knowledge and items I used to kill this monster, but they are easily earned with the effort of reading websites, asking questions in-game and getting familiar with the community.

Believe it or not, you have the ability to farm upgrades for yourself which will eventually lead to farming loot to sell.

If you're trying to make gold by looting gold, I have yet to find an efficient way of doing this.  Selling items is faster, less work, and increases your knowledge of the game and the economy.  Decent items can drop from anything, anywhere.

Lastly, I've found this gaming community to be very generous compared to other gaming communities.  There are community hunts on several servers that I'm aware of which will give you a chance at getting high-tiered loot.

Theo

Merus said:

Theo said:

Mariah said:

Chests do not contain mannequin deeds, Theo was explaining that he got 751 clean up points, which is close to enough to claim a mannequin from clean up, at a cost of 1000 clean up points.

Correct.  751 points for 20 minutes x 3 = Over 2,000 points per hour.  Mannequin deeds are available from Clean up Brit for 1,000 points so you can get 2 per hour.  They are worth at least 100k on a vendor up to 200k depending on shard.  

That was part of my point - when you go out hunting look for ALL the things that can make you cash.  You will find you can generate 2x or 3x as much gold as you think.  Kill dragons? Loot the gems and cut the hides.  You can sell barbed leather for 40gp per.  In fel a regular dragon drops 40 (1600 gold) and a greater drops 60 (2400 gold of leather).   Add that to the 2k it drops plus another 1k in gems and you can get 4-6k per dragon.  That adds up pretty fast.  

Of course most of your suggestion is heavily skewed.  The vast majority of the time Miasma does not drop 4 chests in 20 minutes.  Not that she isn’t still a good place to make money, but your figures are heavily inflated.  I would say it much more likely that it’s somewhere closer to 4 per hour, not 12.

I don’t understand skewed. This is exactly what I got and usually get from Miasma. It depends on how fast you kill him. A samphire with a slayer weapon using enemy of one and honor kills him very fast.  I just reported my 20 min test. 

Merus

Theo said:

Merus said:

Theo said:

Mariah said:

Chests do not contain mannequin deeds, Theo was explaining that he got 751 clean up points, which is close to enough to claim a mannequin from clean up, at a cost of 1000 clean up points.

Correct.  751 points for 20 minutes x 3 = Over 2,000 points per hour.  Mannequin deeds are available from Clean up Brit for 1,000 points so you can get 2 per hour.  They are worth at least 100k on a vendor up to 200k depending on shard.  

That was part of my point - when you go out hunting look for ALL the things that can make you cash.  You will find you can generate 2x or 3x as much gold as you think.  Kill dragons? Loot the gems and cut the hides.  You can sell barbed leather for 40gp per.  In fel a regular dragon drops 40 (1600 gold) and a greater drops 60 (2400 gold of leather).   Add that to the 2k it drops plus another 1k in gems and you can get 4-6k per dragon.  That adds up pretty fast.  

Of course most of your suggestion is heavily skewed.  The vast majority of the time Miasma does not drop 4 chests in 20 minutes.  Not that she isn’t still a good place to make money, but your figures are heavily inflated.  I would say it much more likely that it’s somewhere closer to 4 per hour, not 12.

I don’t understand skewed. This is exactly what I got and usually get from Miasma. It depends on how fast you kill him. A samphire with a slayer weapon using enemy of one and honor kills him very fast.  I just reported my 20 min test. 

Well if I went there and killed 1 Miasma in 60 seconds and got a chest, I could do the same as you...

Get 2400 gold and a level 6 chest every 60 seconds... if the map is worth 50k, then I made 52,400 gold in 60 seconds... that is 3,144,000 gold per hour... and 6,000 clean up points per hour just for turning in the chests (60 @ 100 pts each)

Are you seeing the issue?

I would estimate that someone killing Misama at a reasonable speed (80-100 kills per hour) could expect to average 4 or 5 chests per hour (last I saw published odd for paragon chests are 1/20)  IMO, my math at 60 per hour and your math at 12 per hour are skewed for a drop rate that is too high.

Tim

Just out of curiosity what shard you on? I have hoard maps on my vendor for 30k and they are not moving. Unless you are talking about digging them up but that take more than ten minutes. 

My point is as in the real world an item is only worth what someone is willing to pay so do some research on your shard if your plan is to sell items. I know it sound strange but talk to people on your shard about what sells and at what price. General chat or bank siters are a good place to start. 

I would recommend digging up treasure chests for a quick way to get some gold IF YOU FIND IT ENJOYABLE. If not do as I do, find what I do enjoy in the game and then figure out how to make money off it.

Personally I find spreadsheets and doing calculations of income per hour too much like the real world I come to UO to escape.

Theo

Look - how big is enough sample size?  It is not a single Miasma.

I just did another 20 minute test.  Same setup. Hitting for approx 130-160 hp of dmg per hit and swinging at max speed.  Killing non-stop and looting one while whacking the next. 

• 6 Chests
• 3 Pieces of Myrandom Armor
• 1 Piece of Hunters Garb
• 0 Marties
• 110k gold (slightly less as the chests were heavy and I had to run home and back in the middle)

Maybe you kill them slowly or dont' use luck.  With a sampire and honor you get a luck boost every kill.   Now in 40 minutes I've gotten a total of 10 chests. 

Edit: Another 20 minutes....

• 4 Chests
• 120k Gold
• Shield from Malykyes Juggernaut Set
• Blue Parrott

Seems pretty repeatable to me.  Thats 14 boxes in an hour with around 330k in pure gold.  

Seems repeatable to me. 

Theo

Tim said:

Just out of curiosity what shard you on? I have hoard maps on my vendor for 30k and they are not moving. Unless you are talking about digging them up but that take more than ten minutes. 

My point is as in the real world an item is only worth what someone is willing to pay so do some research on your shard if your plan is to sell items. I know it sound strange but talk to people on your shard about what sells and at what price. General chat or bank siters are a good place to start. 

I would recommend digging up treasure chests for a quick way to get some gold IF YOU FIND IT ENJOYABLE. If not do as I do, find what I do enjoy in the game and then figure out how to make money off it.

Personally I find spreadsheets and doing calculations of income per hour too much like the real world I come to UO to escape.

I'm on great lakes. It does depend on the facet the map is for. If its Ilsh or Ter Mur its not very good. Malas the easiest and Tram second easiest.  Fel maps can include powerscrolls and sell for a premium (75k).   

I keep my maps and do them on my thunter. They are all super easy to solo and if your hoard contains a trove map you then have a path to high end loot.  

The Hoard Tmap has 30k of gold in it plus 20x of 6 gems or something. Average of 100gp per gem thats 12k in gems - so if nothing else - maps can net you 50k of gold without needing to vendor anything.   Add in alacrity, pinks, and 105/110 powerscrolls and maps can be a gold mine too but maybe not as fast as Miasma.

End of the day - I was giving an example of how to make money to someone complaining about item costs.  There are plenty of ways to make money if you are willing to work for it.

monkgamer

I think after playing a few weeks, its clear that gold can be made pretty quickly if you do things right. Its also very clear that the suggestions here are pretty spot on. Play on atlantic, get a guild, just play the game, and you will get what you need whether you have gold or not. 

There are so many  helpful people, who are willing to just give good gear to others to help them out. I dang near have everything I need and didn't really pay for anything.But I do have a sense of pride for the game, knowing the people are so nice and helpful, that I will pass along such kindness to others.

I have now done a few high end content areas and bosses and its fun and there is plenty more to see and do.

Of course, nothign is perfect. I still don't feel everyone should have to guild or group up to experience high end content, as its not always possible. I don't feel only tamers and sampires should be able to solo everything. But what ya gonna do?

TimSt

I envy people who get chests from Miasma. Several times I have played for an hour and killed 20+ Miasmas and not a single chest has dropped. Most time I end up with just 1 chest.

Theo

TimSt said:

I envy people who get chests from Miasma. Several times I have played for an hour and killed 20+ Miasmas and not a single chest has dropped. Most time I end up with just 1 chest.

So that info is helpful there. If you are only killing in the range of 20 in an hour then I can see why you only get 1 chest. With the template I described with the right weapon you kill approx 2 miasma a minute. Sometimes three. That’s 120-180 per hour.  

WornOutYourTool

monkgamer said:

Of course, nothign is perfect. I still don't feel everyone should have to guild or group up to experience high end content, as its not always possible. I don't feel only tamers and sampires should be able to solo everything. But what ya gonna do?

... Think outside the box.  Sampires and tamers are the go to choice because they're brain dead easy.  There are ways to solo high end content by other means, it just gets complicated.  Requires custom and intricate templates and suits/weapons.  Best bet is always get friends, if not to make it easier then to at least have a good time.  I solo a lot of things out if necessity (things people don't want to do, or because of the time I play), but if given the choice of always partner up.  

Always a good time grabbing some new players and running despise, peerless or what ever won't murder them instantly.

xyle

Pawain said:

Gold is for buying Deco. The things you need for characters are found by playing or crafting.

Bye Bye  

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