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"The terms of service are as is until officially changed." What does it mean?

JollyJadeJollyJade Posts: 578
edited November 2019 in Forum Feedback
This is last remark @Rorschach made before locking my thread on forum rules. It leaves me with questions still, so I need to open a new thread to ask:

What does "as is" refer to:

1) "As is" in the ToS written on this page only?
2) "As is" per the ToS written on this page with certain sections changed by rules outlined in acertain newsletters (sorry cant remember which ones exactly).

Any clarification would be highly appreciated. Would also rather have used the other thread instead of opening a new one, but it's closed already.

Thanks!
Just a troll who got told by lesser trolls (moderator classification)

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  • JollyJadeJollyJade Posts: 578
    It is just confusing me since @Mariah told me the multi-strike system is no longer used, now @Rorschach says the ToS is in effect as is until changed.

    Unfortunately I am not allowed to quote @Mariah though. Maybe she can repeat those clarification in public.
    Just a troll who got told by lesser trolls (moderator classification)
  • JollyJadeJollyJade Posts: 578
    @Mariah @Rorschach Am I ghosted now? xD
    Just a troll who got told by lesser trolls (moderator classification)
  • MariahMariah Posts: 3,305Moderator
    Rules regarding expected behavior are unchanged.
    The first rule being:

    Please Treat ALL Posters with Respect and Courtesy.

    'All posters' includes developers, and even moderators.
    I find that most of our posters have no problem at all in keeping that rule.
  • JollyJadeJollyJade Posts: 578
    edited November 2019
    Mariah said:
    Rules regarding expected behavior are unchanged.
    The first rule being:

    Please Treat ALL Posters with Respect and Courtesy.

    'All posters' includes developers, and even moderators.
    I find that most of our posters have no problem at all in keeping that rule.
    Alright, thanks for the heads up,  but that does not answer my question.

    I'm talking especially about rule number #12:

    A multi-strike system is in effect for any user failing to fully comply with the rules:
    1. First Offense: A warning is issued.
    2. Second Offense: Suspended from the forum for 24 hours.
    3. Third Offense: Suspended from the forum for 1 week.
    4. Fourth Offense: Permanent ban.
    5. In severe cases the offender may be banned before making 4 offenses.
    You told me in a PM (You said I'm not allowed to quote it), there is no multi-strike system in effect anymore.

    @Rorschach however told me the rules are "as is" until changed. I read "as in" as in the written paragraph I quoted directly from the ToS.

    So the multi strike system is still in effect? Was then information you gave me in a PM wrong? Or did @Rorschach just make a mistake?
    Just a troll who got told by lesser trolls (moderator classification)
  • JollyJadeJollyJade Posts: 578
    edited November 2019
    (post removed to keep it on topic.. just cant delete it completely..)
    Just a troll who got told by lesser trolls (moderator classification)
  • JollyJadeJollyJade Posts: 578
    edited November 2019
    Just for the record, the ToS "as is":

    Terms of Service

    BY USING THIS WEBSITE, YOU AGREE TO THE FOLLOWING:Please Treat ALL Posters with Respect and Courtesy.Signature size limit is currently set to 500 character limit and a max image height of 200 pixels.Post in the Appropriate Forum - Please choose the forum most appropriate to your topic. Misplaced topics will be moved at moderator’s discretion.No Posting of Personal Contact Information - This is for your safety, Any public posting of any personal contact information will be removed.No Spamming or Bumping - Posts with little or no content intended merely to raise a thread to the top of the board will be removed. Threads addressing the same topic on multiple forums will be removed.No Typing in All Caps - This is seen as shouting and classed as rude. Please don't do it.No Trolling - Do not post comments which have the sole purpose of causing an argument. You may express your opinion on a topic however, abuse to anyone who doesn't have the same opinion as you will not be tolerated.No Piracy - You must not post links to illegal downloads or copyrighted material such as movies and music. This also includes copying posts from one forum to another without the consent of the original author.No Posting In Breach Of Games’ Terms of Service - You must not post, or link to materials that are, in breach of the games’ Terms of Service. This includes, but is not limited to:Advertisement or promotion of unofficial servers.Information on exploits of bugs in sufficient detail to allow others to perform said exploit.Cash sales of in game items.Do not attempt to circumvent the language filters. They are there to protect everyone on the forum. Anyone found trying to evade this will be warned and the post removed.No Obscenity - You must not post any obscene messages or pictures, including pornography or links to said material. Doing so may result in an instant ban.A multi-strike system is in effect for any user failing to fully comply with the rules:First Offense: A warning is issued.Second Offense: Suspended from the forum for 24 hours.Third Offense: Suspended from the forum for 1 week.Fourth Offense: Permanent ban.In severe cases the offender may be banned before making 4 offenses.If you have a problem with any particular user, Please send a PM to one of the moderators.Complaints: We take pride in our forum. However there may be times where some of our members or guests may feel upset. If this is the case please send the Admin a pm clearly stating what you are upset about. If you can take a screenshot to back up your claim then please do. Anyone found to be abusing the complaint system will have action taken against them.
    (sorry the quote is not keeping formatting)

    I've been told by one moderator that #12 is not in effect (in fact I got a 30 day ban some months ago without receiving a 24h or 1 week ban).

    I've been told by another moderator the ToS is "as is".
    Just a troll who got told by lesser trolls (moderator classification)
  • CinderellaCinderella Posts: 1,759
    in my opinion, you deserved to be banned.
    your thread was closed and you started a new one.
    And then after that one was closed, opened a third.
    to me, that was like... three strikes and you are out.

    I'm not so sure that I have ever read anything from you...
    that was constructive feedback.
    And quite frankly, I wish there was an ignore button here.
    Because I would rather not read anything from you.

    I prefer to read constructive feedback and helpful things about the game,
    not someone's temper tantrum because she didn't get her way.
  • JollyJadeJollyJade Posts: 578
    edited November 2019
    in my opinion, you deserved to be banned.
    your thread was closed and you started a new one.
    And then after that one was closed, opened a third.
    to me, that was like... three strikes and you are out.

    I'm not so sure that I have ever read anything from you...
    that was constructive feedback.
    And quite frankly, I wish there was an ignore button here.
    Because I would rather not read anything from you.

    I prefer to read constructive feedback and helpful things about the game,
    not someone's temper tantrum because she didn't get her way.
    Shooting the messenger?

    The questions I ask here are pretty simple. The particular ones in this thread even only arose from a statement made by a moderator on one of the other ones. Further I fail to see where your post is constructive, but ok.

    I can't quote PMs unfortunately. But I've been told A in PMs and now B in public and I simply would like to know which one is the right version.
    Just a troll who got told by lesser trolls (moderator classification)
  • CinderellaCinderella Posts: 1,759
    I was trying to convey to you, how your posts appeared to others.
    You wrote a post and it was closed.
    And then you wrote it again.
    And again.

    It is my opinion, that the ban probably came from higher up.
    maybe because you were warned (with the post being closed) and you chose to ignore it twice.

    I have been wondering...
    if you hadn't been banned... 
    how many times would you have reopened the thread?
    And I have wondered it that's the reason you were banned...
    And maybe that's why you didn't get the appropriate warnings...
    but this is only my opinion.
  • MariahMariah Posts: 3,305Moderator
    closing this.
This discussion has been closed.