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The Three Lumps of Coal for PAC ToT Event

TalmasTalmas Posts: 3
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My first time posting on the UO Forums, and sadly, it is in search of information regarding an evil trio. On Pacific, most everyone I've encountered at the ToT events are great: help clear healers area in city, help you if they see you running for your life from a paragon, etc. However, I noticed last month when I started participating in the ToT events a fine fellow called "Digger", who ran all over wiping out any undead he could spot. Well and good, but he would also run in on your battle when he got the chance, even if you had your mob down to near zero health, he'd still come in to bash it. Needless to say, if he got the chance to get to the mob you were moving on first, he'd do that too.

For some unknown reason, Digger vanished, but a new player started appearing with the same exact run in style: Evil Elf. I've told EE to leave me be in some strong language, but it has no effect. Now, there are actually three of them, Evil Elf - Outlawbiker - and Wa Na Ya, who never seem to log out except when the server is down, and never interfere like I described with each other, but they are more than happy to do so to anyone else. I've currently got a complaint filed against Outlawbreaker, who lured a paragon skeletal drake to the turn in NPC at Britain, but Outlawbreaker didn't know my char was invisible next to the NPC watching him do it.

So my question is this—by running in on my battle with a mob, can they "get" the turn in artifact drop if one does drop? Do they know something by continually doing this? Oh, and if any of you: Evil Elf - Outlawbiker - Wa Na Ya, want to dispute me on this post, I welcome it as I have no reason to remain silent on what you all shamelessly do to players on PAC.

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  • KroDuKKroDuK Posts: 823
    edited January 18
    You need to learn to cope with them under BS management or leave/quit the game.. even if u record them and send the proof to the studio.. nothing gonna happen.

    I experienced something similar with 10 accounts on top of each other farming a spot 8 days straight 24/7 (for splintering weapons).. I reported them everyday; record them.. After that those same 10 accounts were doing the same in Ararat.. I just stop going where they were botting 24/7.. at the end of the day.. my house is the only place I ain't seeing them.. the roles are reverse.. Legit needs to hide while botters/cheaters own the game.
    So rather than recognise the effort the botters went to, to set all that up - for the benefit of the players, to help get certain items, something you could never be bothered to do, you would rather drag people backwards to your neanderthal world?

    Leave attended paying accounts alone, these people go thru a lot of trouble to play/automate the game.

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  • OreoglOreogl Posts: 535
    Talmas said:
    My first time posting on the UO Forums, and sadly, it is in search of information regarding an evil trio. On Pacific, most everyone I've encountered at the ToT events are great: help clear healers area in city, help you if they see you running for your life from a paragon, etc. However, I noticed last month when I started participating in the ToT events a fine fellow called "Digger", who ran all over wiping out any undead he could spot. Well and good, but he would also run in on your battle when he got the chance, even if you had your mob down to near zero health, he'd still come in to bash it. Needless to say, if he got the chance to get to the mob you were moving on first, he'd do that too.

    For some unknown reason, Digger vanished, but a new player started appearing with the same exact run in style: Evil Elf. I've told EE to leave me be in some strong language, but it has no effect. Now, there are actually three of them, Evil Elf - Outlawbiker - and Wa Na Ya, who never seem to log out except when the server is down, and never interfere like I described with each other, but they are more than happy to do so to anyone else. I've currently got a complaint filed against Outlawbreaker, who lured a paragon skeletal drake to the turn in NPC at Britain, but Outlawbreaker didn't know my char was invisible next to the NPC watching him do it.

    So my question is this—by running in on my battle with a mob, can they "get" the turn in artifact drop if one does drop? Do they know something by continually doing this? Oh, and if any of you: Evil Elf - Outlawbiker - Wa Na Ya, want to dispute me on this post, I welcome it as I have no reason to remain silent on what you all shamelessly do to players on PAC.
    Short answer is yes.  If you both do damage to the monster you both get a chance at drop.  

    Unfortunately a lot of these are one hit which can be frustrating.

    Personally, I like when others run in to help drop paragons and even large groups that are swarming me but I can understand not everyone wants that.  Especially if they’re losing drops.
  • OreoglOreogl Posts: 535

    KroDuK said:
    You need to learn to cope with them under BS management or leave/quit the game.. even if u record them and send the proof to the studio.. nothing gonna happen.

    I experienced something similar with 10 accounts on top of each other farming a spot 8 days straight 24/7 (for splintering weapons).. I reported them everyday; record them.. After that those same 10 accounts were doing the same in Ararat.. I just stop going where they were botting 24/7.. at the end of the day.. my house is the only place I ain't seeing them.. the roles are reverse.. Legit needs to hide while botters/cheaters own the game.
    Their first post on the forum and your recommendation is to quit?

    Not every thread needs to be a complaint about Broadsword.
  • KroDuKKroDuK Posts: 823
    edited January 18
    Oreogl said:
    Their first post on the forum and your recommendation is to quit?

    Not every thread needs to be a complaint about Broadsword.
    The first DISCUSSION he's leading.. mentionning his 3 bad guys seems to be online 24/7 while behaving like bots most of the times..

    He did a comment in 2018.
    I'm not sugar coating.. i'm being realistic in my expectation cuz of BS inaction and action.


    You can understand he's no Karen.. but this time it's too much for him he had to speak up.. I cannot tell him keep being a Karen (like I do)
    For your sanity.. better quit.. cuz 1 sub vs 3 sub in this case.. math is very easy depending on BS logic.. i've experienced worst and recorded everything.. and yet things just gotten worse cuz I would refuse to cope with them.. went on Felucca..


    I mean dude.. once I turn against my cheaters and botters.. start killing and looting them they were legit dropping racist comment.. and still NOTHING happen.. even worst I even got blame by people like Paiwan to do BAD report.   :o
    Legit victim blaming (when it was not the case.. i did report everywhere i could, showing evidence)


    PS: u can read between the lines.. he was crying in game cuz of them 24/7 and rude BOTS.. and the leader of those bots was like.. let's lure a skeletal drag on the NPC.. show him who's the boss (the cheater not the legit)
    The more he's gonna Karen like that.. worse it's gonna gets.. with all that non sense.. my intervention.. was top tier for his sanity. cope with them or quit..

    I would invite him to Karen with me.. if I was selfish and not reading the person he is.
    So rather than recognise the effort the botters went to, to set all that up - for the benefit of the players, to help get certain items, something you could never be bothered to do, you would rather drag people backwards to your neanderthal world?

    Leave attended paying accounts alone, these people go thru a lot of trouble to play/automate the game.

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  • PawainPawain Posts: 10,395
    First thing I do when an event begins is yell in chat, If I am fighting something feel free to join.

    Who ever does enough damage gets their drop points increased.  These events were made for a multiplayer game.  
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • TalmasTalmas Posts: 3
    If I made a previous comment in 2018, then its my bad due to faulty memory. Yes, I'm not lashing out because of Karenitis, but you have all given me the answer - they do this because they know they can take the drop. I did realize nothing will happen to them via Broadsword unless they get a ton of complaints, but I saw nothing wrong with posting their toon names and what they do since that can help others encountering them on PAC. In short, nothing can be done to them at this time.
  • KroDuKKroDuK Posts: 823
    edited January 18
    Talmas said:
    but I saw nothing wrong with posting their toon names and what they do since that can help others encountering them on PAC. In short, nothing can be done to them at this time.
    Wait for the moderation.. they could 100% close your thread if they feel like it and erase those characters name from your post on top of giving you a personal warning..
    Talmas said:
    Now, there are actually three of them, Evil Elf - Outlawbiker - and Wa Na Ya, who never seem to log out except when the server is down, and never interfere like I described with each other...
    PS: Just wait for a cheater to flag your post for that quote.
    cuz this is against forum rules.. in game rules does not matter unlike the forum rules.. just be mentally prepare.. cuz.. it makes thing even worst.. i've tried! ;)


    Edit: u called the police and now calling the media on them cuz they were hitting "your" mobs, let's be real.. u had a Karen moment..
    PS: i'm the biggest one around here so.. *wink*
    I feel you tho.. I went on Felucca to avoid that.. things gotten way worse.. with them frame skippers.
    Plus all Karen moment ain't a bad Karen moment. Nothing wrong with being a Karen if u ain't bullying kid selling lemonade on the street, to buy toys
    So rather than recognise the effort the botters went to, to set all that up - for the benefit of the players, to help get certain items, something you could never be bothered to do, you would rather drag people backwards to your neanderthal world?

    Leave attended paying accounts alone, these people go thru a lot of trouble to play/automate the game.

    -UO official forums, brought to you by BoardSword studio
  • SkettSkett Posts: 1,629
    They are probably off sharders getting gear for EM events / idocs 
  • PawainPawain Posts: 10,395
    edited January 18
    Talmas said:
    If I made a previous comment in 2018, then its my bad due to faulty memory. Yes, I'm not lashing out because of Karenitis, but you have all given me the answer - they do this because they know they can take the drop. I did realize nothing will happen to them via Broadsword unless they get a ton of complaints, but I saw nothing wrong with posting their toon names and what they do since that can help others encountering them on PAC. In short, nothing can be done to them at this time.
    They do not take the drop.  All who damage a mob enough get the same amount of points towards their drop Pool. You do not own mobs and the devs made the content for a multiplayer game.

    As you can see this forum is full of whiners who do not understand the game mechanics.
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • KroDuKKroDuK Posts: 823
    edited January 18
    I'd argu on that.. Manifestation is multiplayers.. invasion he has in fact mobs for him.. the spawn adapt to the numbers of players.. some of them are for him.. and the invasion ain't multiplayers content.. it's Multi-Bots..

    Here, what would happen if Talmas was one of those cheater i've experienced on Trammel.. he would put one of his bots like garg thrower ON those guys.. following them.. like they were following me on Trammel.. the reason why I went on Felucca for the invasion..

    I was complaining about them bots.. one of the train leader put a garg thrower on me (he was trolling saying on general: Kroduk is cheating! he's botting a train!!).. the SAME dude I would kill 2 of his bots and loot them on Felucca ~7days later and that would drop a racist comment ~5min later when he realised 2 of his bots died.. never has been punish for any of that.

    I was fuming on Trammel having one of his garg thrower auto AI mobs around me.. I was not trying to get him killed.. I was like no way.. *went on felucca* after fighting a couple red frame skipper and humiliating some of them with the help of the spawns.. they would do the same with their red characters... to end up doing multiple tchou tchou trains   :s

    A poo poo show... all i'm saying the more he gonna complaint.. the worse it's gonna get troll wise.. this is the wild west in game with no sheriff in town.. at best, he's gonna shows up to help them bots against someone blocking their path.
    So rather than recognise the effort the botters went to, to set all that up - for the benefit of the players, to help get certain items, something you could never be bothered to do, you would rather drag people backwards to your neanderthal world?

    Leave attended paying accounts alone, these people go thru a lot of trouble to play/automate the game.

    -UO official forums, brought to you by BoardSword studio
  • KroDuKKroDuK Posts: 823
    edited January 18
    Pawain said:

    As you can see this forum is full of whiners who do not understand the game mechanics.
    Leave attended paying accounts alone, these people go thru a lot of trouble to play/automate the game.

    You can ignore this troll.. this is another of his quote.



    He's a Karen for; us, to stop harassing them bots.. cuz they being monitor.
    So rather than recognise the effort the botters went to, to set all that up - for the benefit of the players, to help get certain items, something you could never be bothered to do, you would rather drag people backwards to your neanderthal world?

    Leave attended paying accounts alone, these people go thru a lot of trouble to play/automate the game.

    -UO official forums, brought to you by BoardSword studio
  • PawainPawain Posts: 10,395
    edited January 18
    KroDuK said:
    Pawain said:

    As you can see this forum is full of whiners who do not understand the game mechanics.
    Leave attended paying accounts alone, these people go thru a lot of trouble to play/automate the game.

    You can ignore this troll.. this is another of his quote.



    He's a Karen for: us, to stop harassing them bots.. cuz they being monitor.
    Learn game Mechanics instead of attacking posters here.

     Yes you don't show the whole quote to attempt to make an invalid point here.   Invasions are made for multi-players whether you like it or not.

    Fact: paging over and over on attended accounts is harassment. 
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • KroDuKKroDuK Posts: 823
    edited January 18
    Chill bro, moderation gonna have to save your ass once more.

    "attacking posters" you are a troll.. just not a funny one.


    Question: How many botted accounts someone can legally monitor/attend?
    "Fact: paging over and over on attended accounts is harassment."
    "is full of whiners who do not understand the game mechanics"

    Saying Hi to a GM is the game mechanic he's talking about.. as long as u pay for your account.. pure trolling.. just not funny.
    So rather than recognise the effort the botters went to, to set all that up - for the benefit of the players, to help get certain items, something you could never be bothered to do, you would rather drag people backwards to your neanderthal world?

    Leave attended paying accounts alone, these people go thru a lot of trouble to play/automate the game.

    -UO official forums, brought to you by BoardSword studio
  • PawainPawain Posts: 10,395
    Yes we all know you accuse everyone of being a bot. That's pretty much the only thing you can write since you don't understand game mechanics.

    Each player who does enough damage gets points towards their next drop.  Nothing else needs said in this thread.
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • GrimbeardGrimbeard Posts: 2,461
    Pawain said:
    Yes we all know you accuse everyone of being a bot. That's pretty much the only thing you can write since you don't understand game mechanics.

    Each player who does enough damage gets points towards their next drop.  Nothing else needs said in this thread.
    Lord help me I'm agreeing with Pawain 
  • KroDuKKroDuK Posts: 823
    edited January 18
    Timmy and Jimmy ^^

    Pawain said:
    Nothing else needs said in this thread.

    So rather than recognise the effort the botters went to, to set all that up - for the benefit of the players, to help get certain items, something you could never be bothered to do, you would rather drag people backwards to your neanderthal world?

    Leave attended paying accounts alone, these people go thru a lot of trouble to play/automate the game.

    -UO official forums, brought to you by BoardSword studio
  • TimStTimSt Posts: 1,885
    EE and I tend to play at the same time late at night.  Especially in Nujelm.  I have had no bad encounters with them.  My only observation is EE dies a lot and leaves his body there instead of coming back after rezing and reclaiming his gear and drops.  Everything must either be blessed or insured.
  • GrimbeardGrimbeard Posts: 2,461
    TimSt said:
    EE and I tend to play at the same time late at night.  Especially in Nujelm.  I have had no bad encounters with them.  My only observation is EE dies a lot and leaves his body there instead of coming back after rezing and reclaiming his gear and drops.  Everything must either be blessed or insured.
    Undertakers staff...
  • PawainPawain Posts: 10,395
    Always 2 sides to each story.  But a certain poster has only 1 answer to everything.   

    I wonder how that "bot"dies and reses without a person there. Shocking.
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • KroDuKKroDuK Posts: 823
    edited 12:50AM
    Pawain said:
    I wonder how that "bot"dies and reses without a person there. Shocking.

    I'll make a prayer for you.

    @cookie can you explain him the difference between EC + Pinco vs CC + UOA vs constellation automation?  :D
    So rather than recognise the effort the botters went to, to set all that up - for the benefit of the players, to help get certain items, something you could never be bothered to do, you would rather drag people backwards to your neanderthal world?

    Leave attended paying accounts alone, these people go thru a lot of trouble to play/automate the game.

    -UO official forums, brought to you by BoardSword studio
  • TimStTimSt Posts: 1,885
    Grimbeard said:
    TimSt said:
    EE and I tend to play at the same time late at night.  Especially in Nujelm.  I have had no bad encounters with them.  My only observation is EE dies a lot and leaves his body there instead of coming back after rezing and reclaiming his gear and drops.  Everything must either be blessed or insured.
    Undertakers staff...

    I don't think he is using an undertaker's staff.  I use one and my body disappears from where I died and appears at my feet. When I click on that body it turns into bones.  EE's body is fully intact.
  • PawainPawain Posts: 10,395
    KroDuK said:
    Pawain said:
    I wonder how that "bot"dies and reses without a person there. Shocking.

    I'll make a prayer for you.

    @ cookie can you explain him the difference between EC + Pinco vs CC + UOA vs constellation automation?  :D
    Funny how every other bot keeps running around when they die.  Another example of an attended player harassment by you.
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • KroDuKKroDuK Posts: 823
    edited 2:32AM
    TimSt said:
    Grimbeard said:
    TimSt said:
    EE and I tend to play at the same time late at night.  Especially in Nujelm.  I have had no bad encounters with them.  My only observation is EE dies a lot and leaves his body there instead of coming back after rezing and reclaiming his gear and drops.  Everything must either be blessed or insured.
    Undertakers staff...

    I don't think he is using an undertaker's staff.  I use one and my body disappears from where I died and appears at my feet.
    And something like sacrifice turn your body into bones instead of teleporting it at your feet..
    Constellation Bots i've seen were not getting back their body..they would be coded to go get back what they need in a bank or house.. like shovel, bandaid.. or what ever they uses, to unload their insured booty and keep rolling.


    Pawain said:
    Funny how every other bot keeps running around when they die.  Another example of an attended player harassment by you.
    Real talk...
    Every other bots don't behave like what you are used to.. you talking about EC+pinco attended botting.. cuz it is limited.. u don't consider everything.. all u do out of bad faith or trolling.. is protect; Pinco.. your way of "playing" on High Sea or pet training with attented automated EC+pinco accountsSs on Lake Superior trammel.. and defending ALL the bots users if they are paid account, for selfish borderline reasons.. or u just VERY VERY obtuse and limited.

    We all get it.. your are the type of dude to mutli-account; train your pets and play on high sea at the same time you are hunting in the tunnels with EC+Pinco.. attended and LIMITED botting option.. now can u stop defending constellation users cuz they're paid account?
    In your head if it's not multibox it's legit.. Multi-botting with illegal cheat engine; no bueno.. even if they're paid accounts.. You get it Pimp?
    So rather than recognise the effort the botters went to, to set all that up - for the benefit of the players, to help get certain items, something you could never be bothered to do, you would rather drag people backwards to your neanderthal world?

    Leave attended paying accounts alone, these people go thru a lot of trouble to play/automate the game.

    -UO official forums, brought to you by BoardSword studio
  • GrimbeardGrimbeard Posts: 2,461
    Is it possible to auto insure in either legal client? 
  • usernameusername Posts: 988
    Oreogl said:
    Their first post on the forum and your recommendation is to quit?

    Not every thread needs to be a complaint about Broadsword.
    It's the correct recommendation and what I've been recommending people for the last few years. If you're unhappy with the status quo it's time to quit because it won't change. I've seen major guilds collapse on the dead shard I used to play on, and now that I've moved to Atlantic full time, I'm seeing guilds collapse on Atlantic. You get the cheaters saying they're going to quit if they can't use their programs, well, the converse is that legitimate people need to quit to send a message that we won't tolerate it. I've closed all but two of my accounts, will be down to one here shortly.
    This discussion has been closed.

    I will be slow to reply because I cannot log in/stay logged in to the forums.
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  • usernameusername Posts: 988
    edited 4:50AM
    Grimbeard said:
    Is it possible to auto insure in either legal client? 
    Nope, and when you ask for a simple thing as 'Toggle Item Insurance' hotkey you get ignored.
    This discussion has been closed.

    I will be slow to reply because I cannot log in/stay logged in to the forums.
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  • Victim_Of_SiegeVictim_Of_Siege Posts: 2,200
    Grimbeard said:
    Is it possible to auto insure in either legal client? 
    As already said, there is not. EC has the Toggle Item insurance. I leave my pack open and have it set to a hot key and insure them as I get them. you do forget at times though.
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  • OreoglOreogl Posts: 535
    KroDuK said:
    Oreogl said:
    Their first post on the forum and your recommendation is to quit?

    Not every thread needs to be a complaint about Broadsword.
    The first DISCUSSION he's leading.. mentionning his 3 bad guys seems to be online 24/7 while behaving like bots most of the times..

    He did a comment in 2018.
    I'm not sugar coating.. i'm being realistic in my expectation cuz of BS inaction and action.


    You can understand he's no Karen.. but this time it's too much for him he had to speak up.. I cannot tell him keep being a Karen (like I do)
    For your sanity.. better quit.. cuz 1 sub vs 3 sub in this case.. math is very easy depending on BS logic.. i've experienced worst and recorded everything.. and yet things just gotten worse cuz I would refuse to cope with them.. went on Felucca..


    I mean dude.. once I turn against my cheaters and botters.. start killing and looting them they were legit dropping racist comment.. and still NOTHING happen.. even worst I even got blame by people like Paiwan to do BAD report.   :o
    Legit victim blaming (when it was not the case.. i did report everywhere i could, showing evidence)


    PS: u can read between the lines.. he was crying in game cuz of them 24/7 and rude BOTS.. and the leader of those bots was like.. let's lure a skeletal drag on the NPC.. show him who's the boss (the cheater not the legit)
    The more he's gonna Karen like that.. worse it's gonna gets.. with all that non sense.. my intervention.. was top tier for his sanity. cope with them or quit..

    I would invite him to Karen with me.. if I was selfish and not reading the person he is.
    It doesn’t matter if he’s had a total of three posts even if it was in 99.  

    You completely missed the point.  Every single thread on here is the same from you.  

    He didn’t say anything about bots.  He said people were running up and hitting the monsters he was fighting.

    You read into it what you wanted to.  Just stop.

    We already know what you have to say.  It’s not doing anything but trashing every single thread on this forum.
  • KroDuKKroDuK Posts: 823
    edited 9:46PM
    Oreogl said:
    It doesn’t matter if he’s had a total of three posts even if it was in 99.  

    You completely missed the point.  Every single thread on here is the same from you.  

    He didn’t say anything about bots.  He said people were running up and hitting the monsters he was fighting.

    You read into it what you wanted to.  Just stop.

    We already know what you have to say.  It’s not doing anything but trashing every single thread on this forum.



    PS: I already answer the same dumb comment from jimmy and timmy.., i'm not your personal secretary since u can't obviously read (I answer this dumb comment TWICE already).. stop coming on the forum if u can'T do better than spreading lies and attacking legit non frame skipper-bot lovers, when they speak against those.. thank you!

    Now go enjoy your hell bot fest and let the persons that can read; comment. Have a good one Billy!

    EDIT: first it's his first comment, i'm telling him to quit (when I said learn to cope with it or quit and he's playing at least since 2018) after he did not had a karen moment and now he never mention they seems to be online 24/7.. how many time can u be wrong in a single post?

    This is pathetic Oreo, go touch grass or something.. your mind is not into it.
    So rather than recognise the effort the botters went to, to set all that up - for the benefit of the players, to help get certain items, something you could never be bothered to do, you would rather drag people backwards to your neanderthal world?

    Leave attended paying accounts alone, these people go thru a lot of trouble to play/automate the game.

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