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  • Lord_NythraxLord_Nythrax Posts: 440
    Grimbeard said:
    I love waiting at dungeon entrance with tamer watching the screaming sampires running 

    I love it when tamers come to this forum and complain that a monster targeted and hit them like it's some kind of outrage.
  • GrimbeardGrimbeard Posts: 2,318
    Lord_Nythrax said:
    Grimbeard said:
    I love waiting at dungeon entrance with tamer watching the screaming sampires running 

    I love it when tamers come to this forum and complain that a monster targeted and hit them like it's some kind of outrage.
    I don't complain i just find it insane that you believe tamers and ranged fighters never get targeted..
  • LilyGraceLilyGrace Posts: 968
    What cracked me up in game (no clue if it’s accurate) was hearing that these new bears can be built so the more damage they do the more they keep themselves healed. So Sampire bears with hidden tamers is good? But Sampire players are bad?
  • PawainPawain Posts: 10,106
    edited December 1
    LilyGrace said:
    What cracked me up in game (no clue if it’s accurate) was hearing that these new bears can be built so the more damage they do the more they keep themselves healed. So Sampire bears with hidden tamers is good? But Sampire players are bad?
    We have had Rams since the taming revamp came out. They have Life Leech, how many of those do you see?

    For any pet you have to spend the gold for all 120 scrolls and skill them for many many hours. Before they can kill difficult things.  Notice how Kragg had his bear out without skills,  Its not the bear is so touch, its the spawn is so weak.

    The T hunt boss didn't kill pets other than the ones players were riding.

    They graced us with easy Mobs.  Don't complain about what Kyronix gives.

    Scalis will be the Bears test,  How many of them will I res while my Triton  keeps on killing.
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • McDougleMcDougle Posts: 4,082
    LilyGrace said:
    What cracked me up in game (no clue if it’s accurate) was hearing that these new bears can be built so the more damage they do the more they keep themselves healed. So Sampire bears with hidden tamers is good? But Sampire players are bad?




    Sampire are abominations that should not exist but that the developers are afraid to fix  my bear however both will make Allen mad and is beautiful
    Acknowledgment and accountability go a long way... 
  • PawainPawain Posts: 10,106
    A Ninja Passive magic with a Bushido active magic.  Would take about 20 minutes to kill an Allosaurus.  You can even run consume on it for that test.  It wont do enough damage to heal itself. 
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • GrimbeardGrimbeard Posts: 2,318
    Pawain said:
    A Ninja Passive magic with a Bushido active magic.  Would take about 20 minutes to kill an Allosaurus.  You can even run consume on it for that test.  It wont do enough damage to heal itself. 
    Good thing I don't fight dinos
  • LilyGraceLilyGrace Posts: 968
    Whatev’s the whole argument is old and stale. 
  • Lord_NythraxLord_Nythrax Posts: 440
    Grimbeard said:
    I don't complain i just find it insane that you believe tamers and ranged fighters never get targeted..

    At least three or four tamers have come to this forum in the last week or whatever to complain about paragons hitting them. A couple of them have doggedly insisted that paragons actually target tamers preferentially. The poor dears are so used to sitting around in a trash luck suit pushing their "all kill" macro that the moment something dares to hit them they resort to conspiracy theories.

    Also, when ranged fighters get targeted, they're expected to move and shoot in order to maintain that range. You seemed to have a real problem with this last time we talked about it, apparently your archer and/or thrower were getting "surrounded" by all the lowbie trash spawn this event throws at them.
  • GrimbeardGrimbeard Posts: 2,318
    Lord_Nythrax said:
    Grimbeard said:
    I don't complain i just find it insane that you believe tamers and ranged fighters never get targeted..

    At least three or four tamers have come to this forum in the last week or whatever to complain about paragons hitting them. A couple of them have doggedly insisted that paragons actually target tamers preferentially. The poor dears are so used to sitting around in a trash luck suit pushing their "all kill" macro that the moment something dares to hit them they resort to conspiracy theories.

    Also, when ranged fighters get targeted, they're expected to move and shoot in order to maintain that range. You seemed to have a real problem with this last time we talked about it, apparently your archer and/or thrower were getting "surrounded" by all the lowbie trash spawn this event throws at them.
    You don't play either class or you wouldn't say such stupid things 
  • PawainPawain Posts: 10,106
    edited December 1
    Grimbeard said:
    I don't complain i just find it insane that you believe tamers and ranged fighters never get targeted..

    At least three or four tamers have come to this forum in the last week or whatever to complain about paragons hitting them. A couple of them have doggedly insisted that paragons actually target tamers preferentially. The poor dears are so used to sitting around in a trash luck suit pushing their "all kill" macro that the moment something dares to hit them they resort to conspiracy theories.

    Also, when ranged fighters get targeted, they're expected to move and shoot in order to maintain that range. You seemed to have a real problem with this last time we talked about it, apparently your archer and/or thrower were getting "surrounded" by all the lowbie trash spawn this event throws at them.
    This event is comparing Apples and Oranges.  Nothing here is difficult.  If a tamer dies the pet kills the paragon while the tamer resses.  In the previous dungeons, the para would be at full HP when you return, and you begin again.

    Yes, our nerfs are still on while Tainted LL is not. 

    I don't complain about being detected, that's been the way it works, an elderly father figure is that poster.  Giving you info when you lack it, is not complaining.

    Least I can build and skill my bears on a tamer while my fighters get more drops.
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • Lord_NythraxLord_Nythrax Posts: 440
    Grimbeard said:
    You don't play either class or you wouldn't say such stupid things 

    What exactly are you saying here? Is it your contention that ranged attackers are not supposed to move around in order to maintain distance between themselves and the monsters? Are you literally just standing in one place and getting hit?

    As for tamers, I don't need to play one in order to read their posts about how unfair it is that monsters are allowed to hit them.
  • GrimbeardGrimbeard Posts: 2,318
    Lord_Nythrax said:
    Grimbeard said:
    You don't play either class or you wouldn't say such stupid things 

    What exactly are you saying here? Is it your contention that ranged attackers are not supposed to move around in order to maintain distance between themselves and the monsters? Are you literally just standing in one place and getting hit?

    As for tamers, I don't need to play one in order to read their posts about how unfair it is that monsters are allowed to hit them.
    You have to stop to shoot what part of this don't you comprehend?  And it's sampires running by that causes a monster to re-target that tamers complain about 
  • Lord_NythraxLord_Nythrax Posts: 440
    Grimbeard said:
    You have to stop to shoot what part of this don't you comprehend?

    Oh my god dude, you stop to shoot and then move some more, paragons aren't THAT fast. Do you want to see? Roll a disposable newbie on Atlantic and I'll stone archery on and show you. Our event towns are too crowded to get a paragon to ourselves, but we can run through Ilshenar until we find a nice one, and then I'll lead it around and shoot it for a while without letting it hit me.
  • GrimbeardGrimbeard Posts: 2,318
    Lord_Nythrax said:
    Grimbeard said:
    You have to stop to shoot what part of this don't you comprehend?

    Oh my god dude, you stop to shoot and then move some more, paragons aren't THAT fast. Do you want to see? Roll a disposable newbie on Atlantic and I'll stone archery on and show you. Our event towns are too crowded to get a paragon to ourselves, but we can run through Ilshenar until we find a nice one, and then I'll lead it around and shoot it for a while without letting it hit me.
    Gee the monsters I fight mana dump on me you must be gud 
  • Lord_NythraxLord_Nythrax Posts: 440
    edited December 1
    Grimbeard said:
    Gee the monsters I fight mana dump on me you must be gud 

    What does this have to do with you standing there letting them hit you? When you're shooting and moving, shooting and moving, all you have to do is move a little further than normal and make enough room to get off a heal. This is elementary Archer 101 stuff, it's insane that I have to explain it to you. You aren't qualified to talk about game balance in any meaningful way. I'm not even being rude, you just objectively are not.
  • GrimbeardGrimbeard Posts: 2,318
    Lord_Nythrax said:
    Grimbeard said:
    Gee the monsters I fight mana dump on me you must be gud 

    What does this have to do with you standing there letting them hit you? When you're shooting and moving, shooting and moving, all you have to do is move a little further than normal and make enough room to get off a heal. This is elementary Archer 101 stuff, it's insane that I have to explain it to you. You aren't qualified to talk about game balance in any meaningful way. I'm not even being rude, you just objectively are not.
    You live in a fantasy world 
  • Lord_NythraxLord_Nythrax Posts: 440
    edited December 1
    Grimbeard said:
    You live in a fantasy world 

    Seriously let me know if you want to come to Atlantic and get some remedial archery lessons. I've made sure to screenshot this thread for the next time I catch you acting like you know what you're talking about. This is way, way, way funnier than Pawain's wacky template with the 75 resisting spells.
  • GrimbeardGrimbeard Posts: 2,318
    You have lived in your 2 button sampire world for to long
  • Lord_NythraxLord_Nythrax Posts: 440
    Grimbeard said:
    You have lived in your 2 button sampire world for to long

    Yeah I should live in your highly-skilled world of standing still while paragons beat your archer to death, right? You're way too bad at this game to attempt a tone like this. Like seriously, which of these two things do you dispute?

    1) An archer should maintain distance from hostiles, including paragons, while stopping to shoot.

    2) When an archer who is doing the above takes damage, they can move even further away and make room in which to heal.

    Go ahead and tell me which one you think is a lie. Then tell me how much gold you'll pay me to do them right in front of your face for you.
  • Victim_Of_SiegeVictim_Of_Siege Posts: 2,116
    A Goblin, a Gargoyle, and a Drow walk into a bar . . .

    Never be afraid to challenge the status quo

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