Salty actions.

LillyMae_1

Recalled in as a player was finishing up taming mares and a red spawned for the person spawning an totem. Now another guy appeared from his lair and started to attack the mare and ending its short life, I asked why he/she/it/them/those behaved in such a manor and the answer was quick "wouldn't let me take the spot and I was killed in Fel by someone" now he done this to a poor fellow in trammel. This happened on Europa shard and the picture displays the player being salty.

Why sell a service for money that fail to work?
 

Pawain

Lots of salty people in the world.   Some play video games.

Grimbeard

Isn't posting other players names against tos? And doesn't you doing so make you as salty?? And no one owns the spawn 

steven

You all players have disappointed me at all turns. I really didn't think there's more bad ones than good ones now. And that's why the community has grown so small

Pawain

steven said:

You all players have disappointed me at all turns. I really didn't think there's more bad ones than good ones now. And that's why the community has grown so small

Thanks.  Since birds of a feather flock together, you would know the number of bad people.  I'm just hanging with the good ones, so I don't know the % of each.

Cookie

We kill him in Felucca because he is allied and has helped God guild.
Trammel is nothing to do with me, I've always said it was a bad idea.
In Felucca, I can deal with people like him.
I do feel sorry that he went all passive aggressive on you.

Lord_Nythrax

I guess there's a fix for this coming where people's totem-spawned mares are protected from attack, at least briefly, but it's honestly surprising that the devs didn't see this coming.

gay

Grimbeard said:

Isn't posting other players names against tos? And doesn't you doing so make you as salty?? And no one owns the spawn 

Pretty sure you're thinking about that snowflakeville that was run by RMTers for decades called stratics.

LillyMae_1 said:

Why sell a service for money that fail to work?

The service being sold is an item that increases the chance that rare hue monsters will spawn. Not that they will be able to be tamed or not killed. Only the increased likelihood of spawning with a rare hue is being sold. What happens after it spawns really is a matter of player driven politics and morals.

Grimbeard

I want all monsters in a 15 square radius only attackable by me after I use luck potion..

Oreogl

gay said:

Grimbeard said:

Isn't posting other players names against tos? And doesn't you doing so make you as salty?? And no one owns the spawn 

Pretty sure you're thinking about that snowflakeville that was run by RMTers for decades called stratics.

LillyMae_1 said:

Why sell a service for money that fail to work?

The service being sold is an item that increases the chance that rare hue monsters will spawn. Not that they will be able to be tamed or not killed. Only the increased likelihood of spawning with a rare hue is being sold. What happens after it spawns really is a matter of player driven politics and morals.

Morality should not be left to the weakest link.

Grimbeard

Oreogl said:

gay said:

Grimbeard said:

Isn't posting other players names against tos? And doesn't you doing so make you as salty?? And no one owns the spawn 

Pretty sure you're thinking about that snowflakeville that was run by RMTers for decades called stratics.

LillyMae_1 said:

Why sell a service for money that fail to work?

The service being sold is an item that increases the chance that rare hue monsters will spawn. Not that they will be able to be tamed or not killed. Only the increased likelihood of spawning with a rare hue is being sold. What happens after it spawns really is a matter of player driven politics and morals.

Morality should not be left to the weakest link.

It's totally ridiculous they've done this.  really will they sell the rights to the spawn to players using luck potion next? because it's no different just another step to pay to win something Mesanna said would never happen 

Oreogl

Grimbeard said:

Oreogl said:

gay said:

Grimbeard said:

Isn't posting other players names against tos? And doesn't you doing so make you as salty?? And no one owns the spawn 

Pretty sure you're thinking about that snowflakeville that was run by RMTers for decades called stratics.

LillyMae_1 said:

Why sell a service for money that fail to work?

The service being sold is an item that increases the chance that rare hue monsters will spawn. Not that they will be able to be tamed or not killed. Only the increased likelihood of spawning with a rare hue is being sold. What happens after it spawns really is a matter of player driven politics and morals.

Morality should not be left to the weakest link.

It's totally ridiculous they've done this.  really will they sell the rights to the spawn to players using luck potion next? because it's no different just another step to pay to win something Mesanna said would never happen 

Have they implemented this?

If so, why would you be bothered by it?  

I vaguely see your point but they’re not really the same.  Are you against using the store items altogether?  Isn’t that more pay to win vs preventing someone from “griefing” other players? Of course, that’s if it’s really what they’re doing and not a “trust me bro”.

Edit:  looked at the patch notes that is what they’re doing.  Which is fine to me, but this shouldn’t have ever been an issue to begin with.  People can be dicks I guess.

gay

Oreogl said:

gay said:

Grimbeard said:

Isn't posting other players names against tos? And doesn't you doing so make you as salty?? And no one owns the spawn 

Pretty sure you're thinking about that snowflakeville that was run by RMTers for decades called stratics.

LillyMae_1 said:

Why sell a service for money that fail to work?

The service being sold is an item that increases the chance that rare hue monsters will spawn. Not that they will be able to be tamed or not killed. Only the increased likelihood of spawning with a rare hue is being sold. What happens after it spawns really is a matter of player driven politics and morals.

Morality should not be left to the weakest link.

Morality is a choice. In this video game we are given the opportunity to make a make decisions and choices that will affects ourselves and others, as well to be affected by the decisions and choices others make. What you want is to have that ability stripped away from everyone because some players don't make the choices that align with your preferred narrative.

Oreogl

gay said:

Oreogl said:

gay said:

Grimbeard said:

Isn't posting other players names against tos? And doesn't you doing so make you as salty?? And no one owns the spawn 

Pretty sure you're thinking about that snowflakeville that was run by RMTers for decades called stratics.

LillyMae_1 said:

Why sell a service for money that fail to work?

The service being sold is an item that increases the chance that rare hue monsters will spawn. Not that they will be able to be tamed or not killed. Only the increased likelihood of spawning with a rare hue is being sold. What happens after it spawns really is a matter of player driven politics and morals.

Morality should not be left to the weakest link.

Morality is a choice. In this video game we are given the opportunity to make a make decisions and choices that will affects ourselves and others, as well to be affected by the decisions and choices others make. What you want is to have that ability stripped away from everyone because some players don't make the choices that align with your preferred narrative.

You mean preventing someone griefing others from a lack of morals?  Yes I’m okay with this.

Grimbeard

Oreogl said:

gay said:

Oreogl said:

gay said:

Grimbeard said:

Isn't posting other players names against tos? And doesn't you doing so make you as salty?? And no one owns the spawn 

Pretty sure you're thinking about that snowflakeville that was run by RMTers for decades called stratics.

LillyMae_1 said:

Why sell a service for money that fail to work?

The service being sold is an item that increases the chance that rare hue monsters will spawn. Not that they will be able to be tamed or not killed. Only the increased likelihood of spawning with a rare hue is being sold. What happens after it spawns really is a matter of player driven politics and morals.

Morality should not be left to the weakest link.

Morality is a choice. In this video game we are given the opportunity to make a make decisions and choices that will affects ourselves and others, as well to be affected by the decisions and choices others make. What you want is to have that ability stripped away from everyone because some players don't make the choices that align with your preferred narrative.

You mean preventing someone griefing others from a lack of morals?  Yes I’m okay with this.

You mean you are OK with someone buying the spawn

Oreogl

Grimbeard said:

Oreogl said:

gay said:

Oreogl said:

gay said:

Grimbeard said:

Isn't posting other players names against tos? And doesn't you doing so make you as salty?? And no one owns the spawn 

Pretty sure you're thinking about that snowflakeville that was run by RMTers for decades called stratics.

LillyMae_1 said:

Why sell a service for money that fail to work?

The service being sold is an item that increases the chance that rare hue monsters will spawn. Not that they will be able to be tamed or not killed. Only the increased likelihood of spawning with a rare hue is being sold. What happens after it spawns really is a matter of player driven politics and morals.

Morality should not be left to the weakest link.

Morality is a choice. In this video game we are given the opportunity to make a make decisions and choices that will affects ourselves and others, as well to be affected by the decisions and choices others make. What you want is to have that ability stripped away from everyone because some players don't make the choices that align with your preferred narrative.

You mean preventing someone griefing others from a lack of morals?  Yes I’m okay with this.

You mean you are OK with someone buying the spawn

I wouldn’t call putting a short delay on it buying a spawn but you haven’t said why you’re against it either.  It doesn’t even completely prevent someone from griefing them if they really wanted to.  But sure, I’m okay with it.  

Pawain

Grimbeard said:

Oreogl said:

gay said:

Oreogl said:

gay said:

Grimbeard said:

Isn't posting other players names against tos? And doesn't you doing so make you as salty?? And no one owns the spawn 

Pretty sure you're thinking about that snowflakeville that was run by RMTers for decades called stratics.

LillyMae_1 said:

Why sell a service for money that fail to work?

The service being sold is an item that increases the chance that rare hue monsters will spawn. Not that they will be able to be tamed or not killed. Only the increased likelihood of spawning with a rare hue is being sold. What happens after it spawns really is a matter of player driven politics and morals.

Morality should not be left to the weakest link.

Morality is a choice. In this video game we are given the opportunity to make a make decisions and choices that will affects ourselves and others, as well to be affected by the decisions and choices others make. What you want is to have that ability stripped away from everyone because some players don't make the choices that align with your preferred narrative.

You mean preventing someone griefing others from a lack of morals?  Yes I’m okay with this.

You mean you are OK with someone buying the spawn

I am only concerned with myself.  If you come up while I'm killing AOLs in NL.  I'll ask if you want my spot.  I'll move to another AOL.

They don't need to buy it, I'll give it to them.   

I have not seen anyone at the nightmare spawn in Kirin pass.  I think the paragons keep them away.

You seem to be the only person complaining about this.  Are u even getting deco  nightmares?

Oreogl

Pawain said:

Grimbeard said:

Oreogl said:

gay said:

Oreogl said:

gay said:

Grimbeard said:

Isn't posting other players names against tos? And doesn't you doing so make you as salty?? And no one owns the spawn 

Pretty sure you're thinking about that snowflakeville that was run by RMTers for decades called stratics.

LillyMae_1 said:

Why sell a service for money that fail to work?

The service being sold is an item that increases the chance that rare hue monsters will spawn. Not that they will be able to be tamed or not killed. Only the increased likelihood of spawning with a rare hue is being sold. What happens after it spawns really is a matter of player driven politics and morals.

Morality should not be left to the weakest link.

Morality is a choice. In this video game we are given the opportunity to make a make decisions and choices that will affects ourselves and others, as well to be affected by the decisions and choices others make. What you want is to have that ability stripped away from everyone because some players don't make the choices that align with your preferred narrative.

You mean preventing someone griefing others from a lack of morals?  Yes I’m okay with this.

You mean you are OK with someone buying the spawn

I am only concerned with myself.  If you come up while I'm killing AOLs in NL.  I'll ask if you want my spot.  I'll move to another AOL.

They don't need to buy it, I'll give it to them.   

I have not seen anyone at the nightmare spawn in Kirin pass.  I think the paragons keep them away.

You seem to be the only person complaining about this.  Are u even getting deco  nightmares?

It’s an odd position to make a stance against unless they were benefiting from doing exactly what this is preventing.  

Some of the rare mares are selling for a good price on Atlantic, I assume it involves no longer exploiting it somehow to sell for platinum.

Grimbeard

NO ONE OWNS THE SPAWN Ever giving player A who chooses to pay more money an advantage over player B who pay just their subscription is wrong how is this difficult or somehow bad 

Oreogl

Grimbeard said:

NO ONE OWNS THE SPAWN Ever giving player A who chooses to pay more money an advantage over player B who pay just their subscription is wrong how is this difficult or somehow bad 

But you’re okay with buying the items in the first place?  

What’s the real reason here?  Who hurt you?

Grimbeard

This effects me in no way other than it's another step on our way to pay to win 

Oreogl

Grimbeard said:

This effects me in no way other than it's another step on our way to pay to win 

It doesn’t say another player can’t tame them.  So I’m not sure how this impacts you.  

You dislike it because they won’t let you kill the rare spawn?  Edit (kill the spawn right away, for clarity.)

To each their own I guess but this seems like silly argument to make.

Grimbeard

Oreogl said:

Grimbeard said:

This effects me in no way other than it's another step on our way to pay to win 

It doesn’t say another player can’t tame them.  So I’m not sure how this impacts you.  

You dislike it because they won’t let you kill the rare spawn?  Edit (kill the spawn right away, for clarity.)

To each their own I guess but this seems like silly argument to make.

Why are tamers entitled to this suddenly needed protection just because they bought a totem?? What about the poor sampire who's used a luck potion and other players dare to kill the spawn? 

Oreogl

Grimbeard said:

Oreogl said:

Grimbeard said:

This effects me in no way other than it's another step on our way to pay to win 

It doesn’t say another player can’t tame them.  So I’m not sure how this impacts you.  

You dislike it because they won’t let you kill the rare spawn?  Edit (kill the spawn right away, for clarity.)

To each their own I guess but this seems like silly argument to make.

Why are tamers entitled to this suddenly needed protection just because they bought a totem?? What about the poor sampire who's used a luck potion and other players dare to kill the spawn? 

You’re dodging the question.

the spawn rates aren’t the same and the mechanics are different.  That’s why you can’t equate the two.

in the case you have the same ability to tame and get the same thing.

the only logical reason I can think of is piggybacking off of someone else’s totem and kill their spawn to get the one you want.  

In short there is no benefit to killing the spawn unless the above is true.  Perhaps there some other mechanics I’m not thinking of though.

Feel free to enlighten me.

edit fixing typos 

Grimbeard

Well it's not the tamers mare until they tame it if another player wants to kill it you have choices one just leave return later two go to fel and protect what you feel is yours it always has been on the person feeling griefed to remove themselves not the developers making the spawn invulnerable and tamers sampire no different you just are justifying bad moves from the developers 

Oreogl

Grimbeard said:

Well it's not the tamers mare until they tame it if another player wants to kill it you have choices one just leave return later two go to fel and protect what you feel is yours it always has been on the person feeling griefed to remove themselves not the developers making the spawn invulnerable and tamers sampire no different you just are justifying bad moves from the developers 

That doesn’t explain why you’d want to kill it other than “because I can”.

As noted, it’s still anyones mare if they can tame it.  If you’re just there to kill it, then why are you even there?

or are you just saying you should be able to freely grief them?

The move is fine.  There’s really no exclusivity here.  I think you picked a hill to die on and unfortunately are still at the bottom.

Pawain

Oreogl said:

Pawain said:

Grimbeard said:

Oreogl said:

gay said:

Oreogl said:

gay said:

Grimbeard said:

Isn't posting other players names against tos? And doesn't you doing so make you as salty?? And no one owns the spawn 

Pretty sure you're thinking about that snowflakeville that was run by RMTers for decades called stratics.

LillyMae_1 said:

Why sell a service for money that fail to work?

The service being sold is an item that increases the chance that rare hue monsters will spawn. Not that they will be able to be tamed or not killed. Only the increased likelihood of spawning with a rare hue is being sold. What happens after it spawns really is a matter of player driven politics and morals.

Morality should not be left to the weakest link.

Morality is a choice. In this video game we are given the opportunity to make a make decisions and choices that will affects ourselves and others, as well to be affected by the decisions and choices others make. What you want is to have that ability stripped away from everyone because some players don't make the choices that align with your preferred narrative.

You mean preventing someone griefing others from a lack of morals?  Yes I’m okay with this.

You mean you are OK with someone buying the spawn

I am only concerned with myself.  If you come up while I'm killing AOLs in NL.  I'll ask if you want my spot.  I'll move to another AOL.

They don't need to buy it, I'll give it to them.   

I have not seen anyone at the nightmare spawn in Kirin pass.  I think the paragons keep them away.

You seem to be the only person complaining about this.  Are u even getting deco  nightmares?

It’s an odd position to make a stance against unless they were benefiting from doing exactly what this is preventing.  

Some of the rare mares are selling for a good price on Atlantic, I assume it involves no longer exploiting it somehow to sell for platinum.

I dont understand what u are asking/saying?

Only a tamer can use them.  They are pure deco because I make pets that can kill stuff.  A magery Mare does not kill stuff very fast.

180M is what I just saw a 2 slot Red one trying to be sold for on Atl.  That would be an ok deco horse.  Id rather buy an EM pig tho.

I just cant stand in the same spot and kill stuff long enough to get any new color.  I tried 1 totem and had enough.  I cant even collect tokens and open one that has a rare color. So, rare things are what other players get, not me.

Yes the purples are selling for a lot. Especially 2 slot ones.  If I got one, I might sell it, just to buy deco for my houses.

I actually thought they made this change a long time ago because players were getting harassed when they came out for Hiryus and Nightmares.

Now that they will work on Cus,  Ya the person doing the harvesting should reap the rewards.

KroDuK

Grimbeard said:

This effects me in no way other than it's another step on our way to pay to win 

I'd support you in your endeavor if those mare would be more than a parade horse.. Legacy NM are legion on UO.

Let the bourgeois do what bourgeois does..

Personally i'm like;



let's speak about those potion that double your point during event.. "convenience store" for a better "QoL" .. wait who care.. let's talk about those bots farm instead 

Edit: the game is P2W since AoS and ebay exist.. if u consider skin as a P2W, i'm not.