Catskills Egg Scripters getting bolder and bolder
On Catskills server, there was a specific, mountless, wraith form, scripter who was on all day by my account. He was on at 8am this morning. I consistently saw him recalling to three different sides of the same screen in Yew steadily throughout the day. He was still going at 11:30 pm when I logged out. I reported him to a GM as did other people I interacted with. Happy to provide more information on this specific individual.
To the devs, not policing this event and not taking action after so many complaints is essentially green lighting abuse. This will impact the economy within the game. This does impact active players from effectively participating in the event. This will introduce many times more event items than should have been earned. These items will not be spread evenly throughout the population and will instead be up on gold selling websites, used by gold sellers for multiboxing events, etc. The difference between this mattering and not is that those who would like to reasonably participate in the event cannot effectively do so.
I suggest the following corrective actions:
-Increase the drop rate of Fey items in dungeon Destard in some way (increase the % chance from normal mobs, guaranteed drops from paragons, etc.)
-Stop EJ accounts from being able to interact with Curious Eggs.
The first will make it efficient for people to play the event. The second prevents afk to win abuse.
To the devs, not policing this event and not taking action after so many complaints is essentially green lighting abuse. This will impact the economy within the game. This does impact active players from effectively participating in the event. This will introduce many times more event items than should have been earned. These items will not be spread evenly throughout the population and will instead be up on gold selling websites, used by gold sellers for multiboxing events, etc. The difference between this mattering and not is that those who would like to reasonably participate in the event cannot effectively do so.
I suggest the following corrective actions:
-Increase the drop rate of Fey items in dungeon Destard in some way (increase the % chance from normal mobs, guaranteed drops from paragons, etc.)
-Stop EJ accounts from being able to interact with Curious Eggs.
The first will make it efficient for people to play the event. The second prevents afk to win abuse.
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I recall to the same spots also. I think most of us do.
Like me, he was attended when the GM came to check.
Let me know when egg prices are real low so I can buy some. thanks
Do like others do, get ahead of them and take the eggs first.
Make them admit what they are doing in overhead chat. If you need help on how to annoy someone to the breaking point, let me know.
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I proposed an easy fix to this issue for the devs, make EJ accounts not able to interact with eggs. Then someone would at least need to put their real accounts in jeopardy when automating play.
I have no problem competing against human players (and I know who they are on my shard) but when 3 bots or so are going at the same time - there is very little for the honest player.
To those that say 'can't you just go faster than the bot?' well they can flip an atlas or recall book faster than I can and when more than one is going at different patterns (top to bottom, bottom to top) you can't get ahead - the best you can do is get one or two eggs between them recalling in.
SOmetimes its like O'hare airport with a scripter dropping in every 5-10 seconds. This is so simple to police if you really wanted to.
I've just come to the conclusion scripting is OK. They never seem to go away. They are constantly at it. Its disrespectful to those working in Destard trying to get an honest reward.
https://forum.uo.com/discussion/10728/how-to-select-eggs-as-a-quest-item-in-an-ec-macro
Egg prices have not moved much on my shard. They have not kept up with the price of ingots making ingots a much better deal if you are after a Destard dungeon reward.
Just applying a little common sense will tell ya they are using a rail to get to a designated tile to run the quest... or they just have extreme OCD and need to park at the exact same tile every time they run on screen to accept the quest
While I do agree that scripters should definitively be dealt with, I do not want to see this alternative "non-combat" way to gather points to be gone because of scripters....
I'd rather much prefer the Developers to get rid of these scripters without taking away from players non scripting this alternative "non-combat" way of getting points.
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The problem goes wayyyyy beyond scripting some eggs honestly. The mismanagement of this game over the past several years is honestly the real problem. Once you open the doors to modifiable clients, and allow these clients to connect to the server, its a wrap at that point. If UO was restricted to the good old classic client, and all other clients, even the EC were removed, we wouldn't have half of the problems we do now.
It fairly frustrating in the PvP world to fight people who are running the new fad client, that has built in scripts for every pvp related action imaginable. I always had a lot of pride in the fact that I was a "legit" pvper. But it didn't and still doesn't matter. In the pvp world I am just old school, or outdated, or too stupid to modify my EC client to compete. Modded clients and scripts is the new norm, and it has gone on far too long for the devs to do a damn thing about it without banning half the games already dwindling population.
And all that TLDR leads to the current problem... The new clients make learning the code and developing scripts super simple, and within days someone wrote a script that people are using to collect eggs... a script that would not work in the good ol classic UO or EC.
So that leads me to ask.. why care? why post novels about scripting and boo hoo all day about it when scripting exists in all aspects of this game, and has gone on far too long to extinguish? Just do what everyone else is doing, learn the "new" clients and play UO plug and push play. But oh.. you wanna be legit.... like me. lol have fun with that, and get use to being completely ignored. They will just continue to try and make events "lol non scriptable" Which makes it 20 times more difficult for the "legit" players. Which will lead to the dwindling of the "legit" players who will either quit or jump on the bandwagon. Its a circle, a cycle that will finally might be the final nail in the coffin.
What I am is the canary in the coal mine. I am the most receptive audience to increasing UO's population and it is not making a good impression at all. To return to rampant exploiting, an event that is mostly unplayable as intended and zero feedback or accountability does not speak well to the current state of affairs. I have little interest in playing against bots that run for 14 hours a day and then try to sell me rewards for real life money.
When you make events like this... events that rely on a large amount of people working together to achieve "victory", every shard other than Atlantic simply cannot handle it. Not enough people online and working it at the same time, which leads to Archer Joe running around tagging the normal monsters with a large train of paragons running behind him, for like a hour or two until there's just too many paragons, and he got maybe 6 drops from all that effort. You can get 6 drops in about 20 minutes or less turning in eggs. You do the math. So yeah... its not gold sellers, its normal people who found a way to participate in the event which is a more reasonable time commitment for the same reward.
But posts like yours just makes the devs freak out and obsess over all the evil doing scripters ruining their content, instead of maybe admitting that their content is a tad too difficult for the large majority of their servers, and the rewards is not as plentiful as it should be for the effort required. But what am I saying? Crazy talk right?