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People getting drops in Destard at a high rate are using high suits and skills they've accumulated. You're wanting to just jump in there and get the same results.
I know my route for eggs after weeks of gathering them. You're not going to get the same results because you haven't put in effort.
I watch other players playing and learn from their mistakes/wins.
At the end of the day it's a video game. You're still expected to play it.
Personally think Keven has been playing a lot more than you (or I for that matter) NONSTOP, so your post is just a tad pedantic and TBH, cringe.
For an *expert, *newcomer, *profi, *noob, *return-player, whatever you wanna be this week, you sure have opinions about what others are doing... By your own posts, you weren't here for any of the last "Treasures Of xx" events, so your experience for comparison is not too up to standards. That saying about the arrogance of ignorance comes to mind.
B ) I do think I've played enough to be an expert at gathering the EGGS at least. NOTICE that I only responded to that part of his post.
C ) I'm reading other posts here that have also said people should post their skills/suits. So yes, sure, if you're complaining about the drop rate... post your suit/skills. I'm not an expert in that and haven't pretended to be.
I will say it seems obvious that ranged is best, to equip a dragon slayer bow, and to get the Fey Slayer if you don't already have one as soon as you can.
D ) I haven't made a comparison once.
Also, what you're doing and since argument fallacies have been brought up before, is called an Ad Hominem argument. You don't have an argument to what I said, so you are attacking me. It's a fallacy because it doesn't prove the point your arguing.
This is seriously a scripters paradise. The devs are just letting them have it. Its disappointing to those who actually enjoy actively playing the game. Its such a let down in its current state, in my opinion.
As per Ad-Hominem, I'm happy you know the term, and indeed my second paragraph borderlined it without actually fulfilling it.
D ) I haven't made a comparison once.
"People getting drops in Destard at a high rate are using high suits and skills they've accumulated. You're wanting to just jump in there and get the same results."
That last sentence is you making comparisons.
where to begin on the lecturing of this one above! If I said the likes of it to a woman I'd be lynched for mansplaining, lol. Thing is, you have zero clue about the skills and suit Keven has accumulated, so you're just making things up, and making it seem like he doesn't know what he's about. Defamation would be the charge.
This other one is you making a prejudiced unfounded declaration and demeaning sententiae:
The point of a lot of these posts arguing with you is that you're not actually trying
Here you delcare , in tone of knowing, how much or not he does try. Really, how would you or any of us know???
Each sentence is a treasure trove, but I shall stop there, I do hate keyboards
I was responding that I wasn't comparing to previous events. You're trying to tie me into a corner and have a got you moment.
You're arguing things and then when I respond, you misrepresent your previous arguments.
I pay to play this game. I don't pay to argue on the internet with people that do this.
My offer stands, if anyone is struggling for eggs. Just message me. I will walk you through my route.
@Kyronix ;
Why not just put back anti macro code and return use the same drop rate as past events, increase the spawn.
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I'm not even sure what you are trying to argue as the ability to gather MORE eggs as opposed to less just further proves my point that it doesn't make sense that a 50 skill player just created 20min ago will (on average) out pace the drop rate of someone with an uber suit. Thanks for helping prove my point there.
The other point I'm making (and many others agree / confirmed this) is that the spawn in Tram is broken and needs attention. Please feel free to disprove any of these (speaking directly for ATL):
I don't really care how they remedy the issue whether it be to spawn more stuff so there is more stuff to kill / increase the drop rate on what you do kill / open up Fel; it doesn;t matter but something needs to be done.
Let me ask you this since you feel the need to argue with me... why are you (or anyone else) against addressing the spawn issue? The only reason I can think why someone would be against it is because they have multiple EJ accounts (or maybe just 1) botting and you don't want anything to change because that means a loss of control on the market. Who cares if more people are able to EARN drops by actually playing and fighting in the dungeon?
Do we want to keep all players in the game or only the power gamer/sellers? Do we really need to argue with each other like this? If the "pile" on Atlantic is working, it's because it's the only thing currently that is successful for the largest group or players. But it still leaves out a wide swath of players.
The eggs are great that it's available. But it's nowhere near the level of what's needed to obtain the items. And, with them being shard bound, lower population shards players don't stand a chance in hell.
But please, let's do keep blaming the casual players and sniping at each other. That's super productive.
They already said this dungeon is different and they can not increase the spawn in other areas.
So, unless they open the hole we are stuck with what we got. A dungeon that only has mobs in the ramp areas. Exactly like it was if someone did not find the hole on their shard on day one.
We dropped the ball
We will work at fixing
Everyone get one free pick
But at this point anything literally even we appreciate the feedback but this is working as intended. But ostrich style of communication needs to change..
The easiest thing they could do is probably bump the spawn back up some; maybe not where it was day 1 but maybe 50-75% of it so there is more to kill in the script zones which would allow those not scripting to have a chance.
The next thing they could do is open up Fel, that seems like it would be pretty easy too. Just "turn on" the dungeon in Fel like they did in Tram.
They could probably tweak the drop rate some so that if 1000 damage points get you a drop they could change that number to 750 points. I don't know the formula bc they like to keep those things secret but ultimately we know there is some point where a drop triggers... just lower that point by 25%.
I also think that they could actually change the spawn locations because they already have done so once so why wouldn't they be able to do so again?
They could say that they are still monitoring it and request some more direct feedback in the game etc so they have more information to make a decision from. After that they can make whatever changes they think would be the right call.
They could also technically do nothing (which I think would be a mistake) and say exactly what you said which is essentially "go kick rocks" we aren't changing anything. At least at that point we know what we are stuck with.
Seems like there are several options for them to pick from here...
This is not quite correct i ask for ps in tram because pvpers want tram content in fel. Content they can already do in tram you can't say in one sentence we pvp for the love then say we need a new reward
What Tram content do the pvp'ers want in Fel? Besides this Treasures of the Fey event, which, y'know, really SHOULD be in there. Especially since they've done it for past Treasures events.
You should have kept your mouth shut and maybe we would still have the hole. Then we would be able to get items also, not just scripters.
You are, however, under the mistaken impression that I was asking for powerscrolls in Trammel. I wasn't, neither in my feedback nor in my reply to you. That was McDougle. As far as your beliefs on why people want to have Trammel power scroll champion spawns, that's entirely your own preconceived notions about others and their supposed twenty year old grievances to figure out. My initial suggestion in my feedback to the team was that if they were to add the event to Felucca then perhaps they should remove the champion spawns from dropping Treasures items.
I played all of Treasures of Fire in Felucca and the Semidar spawn offered a ton of points for minimal effort compared to what was going on in Trammel. We can go back and forth on the risk v. reward argument all you want, but, again, I believe it's greed working here. PVPers want to play the event in Felucca to reduce competition and earn regular spawn drops, they want to PK players for the drops they've earned, they want to earn more drops because of the champion spawn's density, and they also wouldn't mind having the powerscrolls that Rikktor would supply.
Our team has a reason for not including the spawn in Felucca; it did not happen by chance. Until they supply us with that part of their game design philosophy I think we can assume it has something to do with the reasons I just mentioned.
I'm well aware they have their reasons for not including it in Fel, just as I'm well aware what would happen if they threw the event there, especially with the champ spawn active. But look at what Destard is now, especially on Atl. It's a scripter's paradise there. Do you honestly think that people would be scripting it in Fel if it was there? They wouldn't...well, let me rephrase that. They still would, but they're still at risk of getting killed.
Addendum: if these kinds of events are designed to promote community engagement and encourage people to play together, that first couple of days most definitely did that. I understand the “but … scripters!” argument, however it seems the adjustments benefit those scripters more than the actual players.
scripters are going to script so long as there aren’t any consequences or so long as the potential pay-out is greater than the consequences. Giving players a chance to keep up without breaking rules themselves seems like the best case scenario.
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