Melee Damage Calculation Diagram

Arroth_ThaielArroth_Thaiel Posts: 1,019
edited July 2022 in Skills and Stats



Notes:

- I have done all the testing for these damage systems on Test Center and Pacific Shard between January and July 2022. To the best of my ability and knowledge everything here is correct as of this posting (06/07/2022). Anything on this list can change any time the development team wishes.

- I can and do make mistakes, some of these may just be wrong.

- This diagram is only good for PvE, only for Melee damage, and only on production shards.

- Every item with a red corner indicates I have tested the item myself, except for Rage Focus, which you can read about here:
What is focus property please? - Ultima Online Forums (uo.com)

- Battle Lust item property is not on this list. I cannot get Battle Lust to do any type of additional damage no matter what I try, so I have not included it.

- All modifiers represent the maximum values attainable (Lvl 3 mastery, etc.).

- The testing and diagram were compiled for my personal reference. I thought I would share it, since a lot of players have difficulty understanding some of the complex dynamics of UO's damage system.

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- Bard's Inspire is both Damage Increase and Modifier.

- Armor Pierce is both Modifier and Percent Additional Damage.

- Percent Additional Damage is not modifier. It is calculated after modifiers are applied.

- Lightning Strike Critical Attacks have a 20% of occurring. The lowest critical attack damage will fall withing the standard damage range and not be noticeable, but the announcement that a critical attack took place will appear as a system message.

- As of this posting there may be a bug with the way modifiers are applied, making it much easier to reach the 300% modifier cap:
Damage Modifiers beyond the first are being calculated proportionally rather than additively. - Ultima Online Forums (uo.com)


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Using the MDCD to calculate damage:


 
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Calculating Percent Additional Damage:


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Setting up your own testing regimen.

Let's say you wanted to test something against scorpions. First, find the scorpions highest and lowest resistances using animal lore. You might have to sample 10 or 20 scorpions.


Next decide which resist you will test against. I use physical, since 100% physical weapons are easy to come by. Set yourself up with a baseline of stats and skills you can work from. It doesn't matter what that baseline is, just don't vary it, except for the one thing you are testing. Then go out and start whacking on scorpions and record the damage numbers you see.

In the image below I was testing modifiers. The first column is my base damage range I saw above scorpion's heads when using 0 modifier. Column 3 are the numbers I saw appearing above scorpions when using Stone Form. Column 2 I calculated from Column 1 to see what my damage range should be. (I only did this after filling in Column 3, to reduce confirmation bias.) I repeated the process when testing Arachnid Slayer (Columns 4 and 5).



Now that you have a baseline damage range with 0 modifier and you know your damage range with 20% modifier, you can calculate where Stone Form appears in the Damage Flow, and the % intensity of Stone Form. If the numbers are not exactly what you are seeing above scorpions heads, you know you have something wrong.



I then repeated the process for Arachnid Slayer:


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Anyway, those are the results I have for melee damage and how I set up and tested things to get those results.

I hope this helps people understand the melee damage system in UO and to setup and obtain their own results when in doubt.

-Good Luck!


-Arroth

Comments

  • SkettSkett Posts: 1,312
    Thank you 
  • YoshiYoshi Posts: 3,322
    " @Arroth_Thaiel i beleive there is a mistake in your table
    you have listed mortal strike as giving 30% damage bonus, but actually it's more like -30%, as you deal only 70% (instead of 100% damage) "
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  • Arroth_ThaielArroth_Thaiel Posts: 1,019
    edited September 2022
    Yoshi said:
    " @ Arroth_Thaiel i beleive there is a mistake in your table
    you have listed mortal strike as giving 30% damage bonus, but actually it's more like -30%, as you deal only 70% (instead of 100% damage) 
    The first Mortal Strike is -30% Modifier. You are correct.
    The second Mortal Strike within the "Mortal applied" time window is +30% Modifier.

    I only put the maximum values (as I could determine them) into this table. I created a version of the table which included more of the scaling per special, but that made the table too convoluted for me. 
    -Arroth
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