Publish 122 "Cracked eggs" have no turn in value ?


They should have some value, nonetheless, to my opinion... by spawning they took the place of other eggs so I think they should be worth at least something.

Also, considering how a Mature egg costs 10,000 or even 80,000 points, the turn in value for eggs is way too little.

I mean, with an average of mere few points for an egg (how many flawless eggs one might get ?), it will litterally take thousands and thousands of eggs to get and turn in before one can finally get 1 Mature egg.

I think that either the cost for a Mature egg is way too high or, the value for regular eggs to turn in is way too low.
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  • PawainPawain Posts: 11,928
     :D

    Tell me you have not tried this, without telling me.

    Have you dropped the useless things on the ground yet? 
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • MariahMariah Posts: 3,701Moderator
    They have a value of one. Where did you get the information that they have no value?
  • PawainPawain Posts: 11,928
    He might have gone to TC or someone else did.

    You don't get any cracked eggs from the egg clicky.

    Whomever went, did not do any content that would give you a cracked egg to test.
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • PawainPawain Posts: 11,928
    @popps I guarantee that someone will have the 80k dragon on day 1.

    A guy has a bag of Flawless on a vendor. Did you look at my matriarch thread and see how many eggs I got in one night?  I've done that MANY nights and there are others who play a lot more than I do.
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • poppspopps Posts: 4,411
    Mariah said:
    They have a value of one. Where did you get the information that they have no value?
    I used the clicky to get regular eggs countless times and I got not a single cracked egg... got all of the others but not the cracked ones so, I figured that they had no value and that was why the clicky was not giving them.
  • poppspopps Posts: 4,411
    Pawain said:
    He might have gone to TC or someone else did.

    You don't get any cracked eggs from the egg clicky.

    Whomever went, did not do any content that would give you a cracked egg to test.
    You don't get any cracked eggs from the egg clicky.

    This.

    Hence I figured, if the clicky was not giving them, that it was because they have no value (and thus pointless for the clicky to give them).

  • poppspopps Posts: 4,411
    Pawain said:
    @ popps I guarantee that someone will have the 80k dragon on day 1.

    A guy has a bag of Flawless on a vendor. Did you look at my matriarch thread and see how many eggs I got in one night?  I've done that MANY nights and there are others who play a lot more than I do.
    The highest that I saw is the flawless eggs giving 20 points.

    Now, 80,000 / 20 = 4,000 flawless eggs.

    Considering that the odds of getting a flawless egg in a pack of the other eggs is 1 in... I guess quite a low figure, in order to get 4,000 flawless eggs HOW MANY regular eggs a players would have had to gather ? 100,000 ????

    This is beyond absurd, to my opinion.

  • PawainPawain Posts: 11,928
    edited January 23
    @popps ; Follow this thread Bring a toon to Atl Ill take ur eggs to any shard.  You get a flawless every 2 bags 4 to 5 Well.  

    Play UO with me or spend your last posts complaining.
    The forums r ending!

    Your legacy will live forever on the UO server.

    Its cold outside we are supposed to stay inside.  Keep warm everyone!

    Why do you think you need the 80k egg on the first day? This is permanent content.

    It is based on NL the more you play the more you get.  YOU asked for that.
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  • PawainPawain Posts: 11,928
    edited January 23
    @popps ; Here is the link

    https://forum.uo.com/discussion/16972/atlantic-matriarch-runs-this-weekend/p1

    Everyone will be there.  Black tie affair.

    Get all the eggs you can hold!

    Ill take them to your home shard if needed.
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • PawainPawain Posts: 11,928
    @popps did you notice the other clicky that gave magical eggs?

    Have you taken that 80k beauty for a test drive?
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • poppspopps Posts: 4,411
    Pawain said:
    @ popps did you notice the other clicky that gave magical eggs?

    Have you taken that 80k beauty for a test drive?
    Yes, I saw and used the other clicky that gives the magical eggs...

    Too bad, though, that (I assume) this eggs worth a lot of points are only on the Test server for testing purposes and won't be (I imagine) present also on Nests when the Publish will be released...

    If Flawless eggs with 20 points will be the highest points eggs, it will take a ridicolous amount of time before one can get to 80,000 points...

  • popps said:
    Pawain said:
    @ popps did you notice the other clicky that gave magical eggs?

    Have you taken that 80k beauty for a test drive?
    Yes, I saw and used the other clicky that gives the magical eggs...

    Too bad, though, that (I assume) this eggs worth a lot of points are only on the Test server for testing purposes and won't be (I imagine) present also on Nests when the Publish will be released...

    If Flawless eggs with 20 points will be the highest points eggs, it will take a ridicolous amount of time before one can get to 80,000 points...

    But you will eventually get one. 
    A Goblin, a Gargoyle, and a Drow walk into a bar . . .

    Never be afraid to challenge the status quo

  • poppspopps Posts: 4,411
    edited January 24
    popps said:
    Pawain said:
    @ popps did you notice the other clicky that gave magical eggs?

    Have you taken that 80k beauty for a test drive?
    Yes, I saw and used the other clicky that gives the magical eggs...

    Too bad, though, that (I assume) this eggs worth a lot of points are only on the Test server for testing purposes and won't be (I imagine) present also on Nests when the Publish will be released...

    If Flawless eggs with 20 points will be the highest points eggs, it will take a ridicolous amount of time before one can get to 80,000 points...

    But you will eventually get one. 

    Eventually...

    One needs to consider though, the serious time put into the effort if the figures remain these (20 points higher turn in value for a rarer to get flawless egg and 10,000/80,000 for a Mature egg to claim)...

    And this, to perhaps even then find out that, due to the RNG, when one converts the Mature egg, it turns into a 110.0 Wrestling Juvenile Umbrascale rather then a 130.0 Wrestling one ? Wouldn't this be a real bummer after so much time spent to get it ?

    A whole lot of time that perhaps, just perhaps, could have been spent in something else, more profitably ?
  • GrimbeardGrimbeard Posts: 3,416
    popps said:
    popps said:
    Pawain said:
    @ popps did you notice the other clicky that gave magical eggs?

    Have you taken that 80k beauty for a test drive?
    Yes, I saw and used the other clicky that gives the magical eggs...

    Too bad, though, that (I assume) this eggs worth a lot of points are only on the Test server for testing purposes and won't be (I imagine) present also on Nests when the Publish will be released...

    If Flawless eggs with 20 points will be the highest points eggs, it will take a ridicolous amount of time before one can get to 80,000 points...

    But you will eventually get one. 

    Eventually...

    One needs to consider though, the serious time put into the effort if the figures remain these (20 points higher turn in value for a rarer to get flawless egg and 10,000/80,000 for a Mature egg to claim)...

    And this, to perhaps even then find out that, due to the RNG, when one converts the Mature egg, it turns into a 110.0 Wrestling Juvenile Umbrascale rather then a 130.0 Wrestling one ? Wouldn't this be a real bummer after so much time spent to get it ?

    A whole lot of time that perhaps, just perhaps, could have been spent in something else, more profitably ?
    No you lost me at "profitable"
  • MariahMariah Posts: 3,701Moderator
    But turning in eggs isn't the only way to get that mature egg. My hopes are more on this bullet point in the notes:
    • Greatly increased chance for a Mature Umbrascale Dragon Egg 

    Which comes in the list of the contents of the nest when undertaking the super massive dragon nest maps
    popps said:
    Mariah said:
    They have a value of one. Where did you get the information that they have no value?
    I used the clicky to get regular eggs countless times and I got not a single cracked egg... got all of the others but not the cracked ones so, I figured that they had no value and that was why the clicky was not giving them.
    It is a mistake to make those kinds of assumptions. 

  • popps said:
    popps said:
    Pawain said:
    @ popps did you notice the other clicky that gave magical eggs?

    Have you taken that 80k beauty for a test drive?
    Yes, I saw and used the other clicky that gives the magical eggs...

    Too bad, though, that (I assume) this eggs worth a lot of points are only on the Test server for testing purposes and won't be (I imagine) present also on Nests when the Publish will be released...

    If Flawless eggs with 20 points will be the highest points eggs, it will take a ridicolous amount of time before one can get to 80,000 points...

    But you will eventually get one. 

    Eventually...

    One needs to consider though, the serious time put into the effort if the figures remain these (20 points higher turn in value for a rarer to get flawless egg and 10,000/80,000 for a Mature egg to claim)...

    And this, to perhaps even then find out that, due to the RNG, when one converts the Mature egg, it turns into a 110.0 Wrestling Juvenile Umbrascale rather then a 130.0 Wrestling one ? Wouldn't this be a real bummer after so much time spent to get it ?

    A whole lot of time that perhaps, just perhaps, could have been spent in something else, more profitably ?

    I think you’re treating a video game like it’s a quarterly earnings report. Yes, the point totals are high. Yes, the RNG might give you a 110 instead of a 130. That’s the nature of games. They’re meant to be played, not audited. If someone feels “a whole lot of time could have been spent more profitably” that’s usually a sign they’re approaching the hobby with the wrong mindset, not that the system is broken.

    Most of us log in to relax, have fun, and maybe snag something cool along the way. If the only way an event feels worthwhile is if every minute spent converts into maximum value output, that’s not gameplay, that’s a job. Play because you enjoy it. The rewards are a bonus, not a contract. 

    That is at least how I see it, or at least how I believe I see it, or at least how I currently understand myself to be seeing it. Your mileage may vary, of course, at least that is how I see it, in the extended, needlessly reiterated, redundantly clarified sense of seeing it.

    A Goblin, a Gargoyle, and a Drow walk into a bar . . .

    Never be afraid to challenge the status quo

  • Grimbeard said:
    popps said:
    popps said:
    Pawain said:
    @ popps did you notice the other clicky that gave magical eggs?

    Have you taken that 80k beauty for a test drive?
    Yes, I saw and used the other clicky that gives the magical eggs...

    Too bad, though, that (I assume) this eggs worth a lot of points are only on the Test server for testing purposes and won't be (I imagine) present also on Nests when the Publish will be released...

    If Flawless eggs with 20 points will be the highest points eggs, it will take a ridicolous amount of time before one can get to 80,000 points...

    But you will eventually get one. 

    Eventually...

    One needs to consider though, the serious time put into the effort if the figures remain these (20 points higher turn in value for a rarer to get flawless egg and 10,000/80,000 for a Mature egg to claim)...

    And this, to perhaps even then find out that, due to the RNG, when one converts the Mature egg, it turns into a 110.0 Wrestling Juvenile Umbrascale rather then a 130.0 Wrestling one ? Wouldn't this be a real bummer after so much time spent to get it ?

    A whole lot of time that perhaps, just perhaps, could have been spent in something else, more profitably ?
    No you lost me at "profitable"
    exactly, we play to have fun and build communities, not "make a profit" 
    A Goblin, a Gargoyle, and a Drow walk into a bar . . .

    Never be afraid to challenge the status quo

  • Mariah said:
    But turning in eggs isn't the only way to get that mature egg. My hopes are more on this bullet point in the notes:
    • Greatly increased chance for a Mature Umbrascale Dragon Egg 

    Which comes in the list of the contents of the nest when undertaking the super massive dragon nest maps
    popps said:
    Mariah said:
    They have a value of one. Where did you get the information that they have no value?
    I used the clicky to get regular eggs countless times and I got not a single cracked egg... got all of the others but not the cracked ones so, I figured that they had no value and that was why the clicky was not giving them.
    It is a mistake to make those kinds of assumptions. 

    you mean he ASSumed something and got egg on his face??? I'm Shocked, SHOCKED I Say!!

    A Goblin, a Gargoyle, and a Drow walk into a bar . . .

    Never be afraid to challenge the status quo

  • poppspopps Posts: 4,411
    edited January 24
    Grimbeard said:
    popps said:
    popps said:
    Pawain said:
    @ popps did you notice the other clicky that gave magical eggs?

    Have you taken that 80k beauty for a test drive?
    Yes, I saw and used the other clicky that gives the magical eggs...

    Too bad, though, that (I assume) this eggs worth a lot of points are only on the Test server for testing purposes and won't be (I imagine) present also on Nests when the Publish will be released...

    If Flawless eggs with 20 points will be the highest points eggs, it will take a ridicolous amount of time before one can get to 80,000 points...

    But you will eventually get one. 

    Eventually...

    One needs to consider though, the serious time put into the effort if the figures remain these (20 points higher turn in value for a rarer to get flawless egg and 10,000/80,000 for a Mature egg to claim)...

    And this, to perhaps even then find out that, due to the RNG, when one converts the Mature egg, it turns into a 110.0 Wrestling Juvenile Umbrascale rather then a 130.0 Wrestling one ? Wouldn't this be a real bummer after so much time spent to get it ?

    A whole lot of time that perhaps, just perhaps, could have been spent in something else, more profitably ?
    No you lost me at "profitable"
    exactly, we play to have fun and build communities, not "make a profit" 
    I probably misexpressed myself using the word "profitable"... what I was more trying to mean was more something of the lines of spending one's own time in a more useful way, whether in the game or in real life...

    Let me better explain myself. If trying to get enough regular eggs takes me X hours doing the same content over and over an over (the farming of Nest Maps) and in much less then those X hours I can do multiple different content in the game (varied gameplay and not the same gameplay over and over and over) and earn whatever gold is asked to buy a Mature egg from another player rather then earning one on my own, that I would see it as a better use of my time...

    My point being, that when obtaining a given item in the game takes too much time, and through repetitive (farming) same-gameplay, players sometimes look at other alternatives that they might have to get that same item... some players might use BOT-trains, some scripting, some might even think a better use of their time to use real money to buy those in game items since for them, making that real money takes way less time as the time they would have to spend in the game...

    Not sure if I am able to explain my argument... just trying to highlight how making obtaining any given item in the game too much time consuming might deter some players of that game from wanting to get through that same-gameplay farming over and over and over and thus, they start looking at what other options they might have to get those items in a different way.

    I am OK with getting items requiring "some" in game time... but some, not a ridicolous high amount of time.

    My problem is, that I do not BOT-train nor script (hate those) and I see it as pointless to use real money to buy in game items.

    So, if items take way too much time to get, and worse, through repetitive same-like gameplay like doing Nest Maps over and over and over for who knows how long (which in the end becomes boring for me and alienates me from enjoying playing the game), I have no other way left other then do without those items unless I can gather the gold necessary to purchase them in the game from playing other, more varied content of the game (but then this depends on how much is asked in game for these particular items).

    In the end, I would like very much to earn those items myself, just playing the game, yet, when this takes a way too high time because of how it is Designed, I end up giving up as I do not particularly enjoy "farming" that is, doing the same content over and over and over for a very long time.

    That is why I suggested to add a "counter" similar of the Doom drops whereas players do any given content for the required X time and then finally they get their drop. End of the story.

    The same could very well be done with Mature eggs (or any other drop item)... do X Nest Maps and see a Mature egg spawn in a nest (or a hidden chest or from a Matriarch kill), guaranteed.
  • popps said:
    Grimbeard said:
    popps said:
    popps said:
    Pawain said:
    @ popps did you notice the other clicky that gave magical eggs?

    Have you taken that 80k beauty for a test drive?
    Yes, I saw and used the other clicky that gives the magical eggs...

    Too bad, though, that (I assume) this eggs worth a lot of points are only on the Test server for testing purposes and won't be (I imagine) present also on Nests when the Publish will be released...

    If Flawless eggs with 20 points will be the highest points eggs, it will take a ridicolous amount of time before one can get to 80,000 points...

    But you will eventually get one. 

    Eventually...

    One needs to consider though, the serious time put into the effort if the figures remain these (20 points higher turn in value for a rarer to get flawless egg and 10,000/80,000 for a Mature egg to claim)...

    And this, to perhaps even then find out that, due to the RNG, when one converts the Mature egg, it turns into a 110.0 Wrestling Juvenile Umbrascale rather then a 130.0 Wrestling one ? Wouldn't this be a real bummer after so much time spent to get it ?

    A whole lot of time that perhaps, just perhaps, could have been spent in something else, more profitably ?
    No you lost me at "profitable"
    exactly, we play to have fun and build communities, not "make a profit" 
    some sords

    You keep trying to reframe this like it’s some grand philosophical crisis about “time usage” but the core of your argument is the same every time: you don’t like doing repetitive content, therefore the game should redesign itself around your personal tolerance threshold. That’s not a gameplay critique, that’s an entitlement issue dressed up as a dissertation.

    Plenty of players run the same content repeatedly because that’s how progression/Reward systems work in literally every MMO ever made. You’re not uncovering a shocking design flaw  you’re just announcing that you don’t enjoy farming. Fair enough. But turning that into “therefore the game should guarantee me the rare item after X attempts” is where the wheels come off.

    You keep saying you “would like very much to earn the items yourself” but only if the game hands them to you on a schedule you approve of, with no variance, no RNG, and no grind. That’s not “earning” that’s demanding a punch‑clock rewards system because the alternative offends your sense of efficiency.

    And the constant comparisons to botters and RMT don’t strengthen your point they just underline that you believe the existence of shortcuts entitles you to one too. It doesn’t. Other players breaking the rules doesn’t mean the game owes you a custom drop mechanic so you never have to feel bored.

    If you don’t enjoy farming, the solution is simple: don’t farm. Buy the item, trade for it, or skip it. That’s how the game has worked for 28+ years. Not every item is meant to be acquired by every player doing every activity they personally enjoy. That’s not a flaw. That’s a functioning economy. But sure let’s pretend the real issue is that the game needs a Doom‑style pity timer because you personally don’t like repetition.  

    at least that is how I see it, or how I think I see it, or how I’ve convinced myself I’m seeing it in this moment. And in the spirit of excessive clarity, I’ll simply restate that at least that is how I see it, in the long form, extended edition, director’s cut, redundantly annotated sense of seeing it.

    A Goblin, a Gargoyle, and a Drow walk into a bar . . .

    Never be afraid to challenge the status quo

  • GrimbeardGrimbeard Posts: 3,416
    See popps you can choose to do the event content or you can do the fishing quest for the 8th time no one makes you spend your UO  time in a certain way 
  • PawainPawain Posts: 11,928
    @popps ; so instead of playing UO and having fun.  You have chosen to spent your last days complaining about not getting eggs.   You want that legacy?

    I got many eggs last night.

    You got 0.

    Who is using the best method?
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • keven2002keven2002 Posts: 2,790
    popps said:
    Grimbeard said:
    popps said:

    Eventually...

    One needs to consider though, the serious time put into the effort if the figures remain these (20 points higher turn in value for a rarer to get flawless egg and 10,000/80,000 for a Mature egg to claim)...

    And this, to perhaps even then find out that, due to the RNG, when one converts the Mature egg, it turns into a 110.0 Wrestling Juvenile Umbrascale rather then a 130.0 Wrestling one ? Wouldn't this be a real bummer after so much time spent to get it ?

    A whole lot of time that perhaps, just perhaps, could have been spent in something else, more profitably ?
    No you lost me at "profitable"
    exactly, we play to have fun and build communities, not "make a profit" 
    I probably misexpressed myself using the word "profitable"... what I was more trying to mean was more something of the lines of spending one's own time in a more useful way, whether in the game or in real life...


    Perhaps it was just a Freudian slip? This is not the first time you have made mention the value of things. It kind of sounds like your main mission in UO is to make it some sort of cash grab that you can profit from while disregarding everyone else's views and misrepresenting information every step along the way.

    To Vic's point... yes it's a high price on the dragon eggs but it's permanent content that you can do at your own pace. If you think your time is better spent doing other stuff there is literally nothing stopping you... wait 6 months and I'm sure you will be able to buy the 80k drop for a reasonable price. If you are looking to profit from it then you better start grinding now to get those eggs ready(you have a week to stockpile) instead of sitting around the forum arguing with everyone.
  • RockoRocko Posts: 332
    All shall burn beneath @Mariah 's gaze.
    Former content creator for UO Stratics.
  • PawainPawain Posts: 11,928
     :D  :D  
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • poppspopps Posts: 4,411
    edited January 24

    You keep trying to reframe this like it’s some grand philosophical crisis about “time usage” but the core of your argument is the same every time: you don’t like doing repetitive content, therefore the game should redesign itself around your personal tolerance threshold. That’s not a gameplay critique, that’s an entitlement issue dressed up as a dissertation.

    Plenty of players run the same content repeatedly because that’s how progression/Reward systems work in literally every MMO ever made. You’re not uncovering a shocking design flaw  you’re just announcing that you don’t enjoy farming. Fair enough. But turning that into “therefore the game should guarantee me the rare item after X attempts” is where the wheels come off.

    You keep saying you “would like very much to earn the items yourself” but only if the game hands them to you on a schedule you approve of, with no variance, no RNG, and no grind. That’s not “earning” that’s demanding a punch‑clock rewards system because the alternative offends your sense of efficiency.

    And the constant comparisons to botters and RMT don’t strengthen your point they just underline that you believe the existence of shortcuts entitles you to one too. It doesn’t. Other players breaking the rules doesn’t mean the game owes you a custom drop mechanic so you never have to feel bored.

    If you don’t enjoy farming, the solution is simple: don’t farm. Buy the item, trade for it, or skip it. That’s how the game has worked for 28+ years. Not every item is meant to be acquired by every player doing every activity they personally enjoy. That’s not a flaw. That’s a functioning economy. But sure let’s pretend the real issue is that the game needs a Doom‑style pity timer because you personally don’t like repetition.  

    at least that is how I see it, or how I think I see it, or how I’ve convinced myself I’m seeing it in this moment. And in the spirit of excessive clarity, I’ll simply restate that at least that is how I see it, in the long form, extended edition, director’s cut, redundantly annotated sense of seeing it.


    If time spent at the keyboard is just a concern of mine and not other players' issue as well, may I then ask why there is so many players multi-boxing (perhaps even using clients other then the official one), running BOT-trains, scripting sometimes even 24/7 ?

    And, apparently, from reading other players' comments here and there they also seem to be quite a number, not just merely a few...

    Going back on topic, out of 30 regular eggs only 1 turned to be a flawless egg...

    Considering that some 4,000 flawless eggs would be needed to tally the 80,000 points, this would mean having to gather some 30 x 4,000 regular eggs which turns out to be a whopping 120,000 eggs...

    Yes, the other eggs may give 1 to 5 points so probably the total number might not be 120,000 total eggs to have to gather but perhaps more like 80,000-90,000 total eggs but stll, a ridicolously way too high number, to my opinion.

    Something like 8,000-9,000 Nests if a Nest will yield 10 eggs ?

    And how much time does it take to get through a Nest ? From search to finish say 15-20 minutes ?

    We are therefore looking at some nearly 3,000 hours of gameplay to get a Mature egg ?

    Seriously ?

    Even playing 24 hours a day non stop, not sleeping, not eating, not doing anything else but playing UO, 3,000 hours would take 125 whole days, 4 months of non-stop playing UO... to get 1 Mature egg that perhaps when claimed might result in a 110.0 Wrestling Juvenile Umbrascale Dragon, not even a 130.0 Wrestling one ?

    And this should be seen as perfectly acceptable ? Well, not for me, sorry.
  • PawainPawain Posts: 11,928
    @popps still gonna sit there and complain and not play?  I am getting eggs while you are not even trying.

    You should play on Test center, maybe you'll win the castle raffle  all the new stuff is free.

    No time needed, just collect stuff.

    If time is the true reason.
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • keven2002keven2002 Posts: 2,790
    popps said:
    Something like 8,000-9,000 Nests if a Nest will yield 10 eggs ?

    And how much time does it take to get through a Nest ? From search to finish say 15-20 minutes ?

    We are therefore looking at some nearly 3,000 hours of gameplay to get a Mature egg ?

    Seriously ?

    Even playing 24 hours a day non stop, not sleeping, not eating, not doing anything else but playing UO, 3,000 hours would take 125 whole days, 4 months of non-stop playing UO... to get 1 Mature egg that perhaps when claimed might result in a 110.0 Wrestling Juvenile Umbrascale Dragon, not even a 130.0 Wrestling one ?

    And this should be seen as perfectly acceptable ? Well, not for me, sorry.
    First... tell me you haven't actually played TC (the new content) without actually saying it...

    Once again you misrepresent data to give your argument validity. The super massive nests, as I posted btw, appear to have 16+ eggs AND the Broodmother drops eggs as well so I'd guess 25+ eggs from each map. That kind of blows up the rest of your math which is only for the new hue egg and not a regular hue egg. You are also forgetting that Matriarch will give egg drops too. 

    The biggest thing you are missing is that the Devs have already said/proven the mature eggs are not something people should be getting every day with multiples in a day... they are something you need to work for.
  • poppspopps Posts: 4,411
    edited January 24
    keven2002 said:
    popps said:
    Something like 8,000-9,000 Nests if a Nest will yield 10 eggs ?

    And how much time does it take to get through a Nest ? From search to finish say 15-20 minutes ?

    We are therefore looking at some nearly 3,000 hours of gameplay to get a Mature egg ?

    Seriously ?

    Even playing 24 hours a day non stop, not sleeping, not eating, not doing anything else but playing UO, 3,000 hours would take 125 whole days, 4 months of non-stop playing UO... to get 1 Mature egg that perhaps when claimed might result in a 110.0 Wrestling Juvenile Umbrascale Dragon, not even a 130.0 Wrestling one ?

    And this should be seen as perfectly acceptable ? Well, not for me, sorry.
    First... tell me you haven't actually played TC (the new content) without actually saying it...

    Once again you misrepresent data to give your argument validity. The super massive nests, as I posted btw, appear to have 16+ eggs AND the Broodmother drops eggs as well so I'd guess 25+ eggs from each map. That kind of blows up the rest of your math which is only for the new hue egg and not a regular hue egg. You are also forgetting that Matriarch will give egg drops too. 

    The biggest thing you are missing is that the Devs have already said/proven the mature eggs are not something people should be getting every day with multiples in a day... they are something you need to work for.

    The Broodmother can hardly be soloed and also super massive nests are not really for players to solo... those eggs, therefore, would need to be shared among all players participating.

    if 2-3 players do those Maps together the end tally would be even less then 10 eggs per player participating... and, with the current figures on Test server it would take forever to a casual player not scripting or multi-boxing to come up with 4,000 flawless eggs...
  • PawainPawain Posts: 11,928
    popps said:
    keven2002 said:
    popps said:
    Something like 8,000-9,000 Nests if a Nest will yield 10 eggs ?

    And how much time does it take to get through a Nest ? From search to finish say 15-20 minutes ?

    We are therefore looking at some nearly 3,000 hours of gameplay to get a Mature egg ?

    Seriously ?

    Even playing 24 hours a day non stop, not sleeping, not eating, not doing anything else but playing UO, 3,000 hours would take 125 whole days, 4 months of non-stop playing UO... to get 1 Mature egg that perhaps when claimed might result in a 110.0 Wrestling Juvenile Umbrascale Dragon, not even a 130.0 Wrestling one ?

    And this should be seen as perfectly acceptable ? Well, not for me, sorry.
    First... tell me you haven't actually played TC (the new content) without actually saying it...

    Once again you misrepresent data to give your argument validity. The super massive nests, as I posted btw, appear to have 16+ eggs AND the Broodmother drops eggs as well so I'd guess 25+ eggs from each map. That kind of blows up the rest of your math which is only for the new hue egg and not a regular hue egg. You are also forgetting that Matriarch will give egg drops too. 

    The biggest thing you are missing is that the Devs have already said/proven the mature eggs are not something people should be getting every day with multiples in a day... they are something you need to work for.

    The Broodmother can hardly be soloed and also super massive nests are not really for players to solo... those eggs, therefore, would need to be shared among all players participating.

    if 2-3 players do those Maps together the end tally would be even less then 10 eggs per player participating... and, with the current figures on Test server it would take forever to a casual player not scripting or multi-boxing to come up with 4,000 flawless eggs...
    How would you know how long anything takes in UO?

    You do not do the content enough to know whats enough.

    I am offering you all the eggs you can hold. All you have to do is walk in a gate cast a Blade spirt, get a bag,

    You can not be bothered with getting eggs it seems.  Walking in a gate takes too long.
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
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