If Luck Actually Works

gggghhhh0987 · December 29

KT7915 said:

keven2002 said:

NuSair said:
Definitive as I can be. Luck works on T-Maps and general creature loot. I've done over 1000 Nest Maps, I did 300 with 0 luck for testing. 700+ with 3000-5000+ luck. Luck did not affect any of the loot from the nest. It was the same number of gems based on the level of the nest, none of the equipment seemed to be modified by luck (ie- still useless junk).

Yea unfortunately the T-map "revision" several years ago missed the mark on putting "good items" in treasure chests.

As for "does luck actually" in general... I'd say it does. You get more ToT drops from thee vents with more luck; easy enough to test this by clicking the luck statues vs not having them touched... same suit/mobs/dungeons/etc and 10 out of 10 times I'm getting more drops with luck (2300 luck vs 0). It also should work on corpse loot and again I think it does because doing things like UW with and without a luck suit I've noticed a difference, but this one is much harder to test because of the RNG and unknown... it's hard to verify anything. You get X item with luck but might still get X item without a luck suit because your RNG rolled high enough.

I think that's where luck falls for the mature eggs ( @ Mordeed - I think this is what you are asking)... I think it does help improve your chances but due to RNG people (myself included) will get a mature egg with lower luck. I was running 5k luck while doing massive nests and didn't get anything but ended up with several lower maps so I decided to do them all until I had nothing left on me... I ended up getting an egg in a lesser map with maybe 500 luck. Without being able to see the numbers behind the scenes, it's going to be near impossible to actually confirm unless you run a sample size of like 1000 maps with a luck suit and 1000 without and even then the numbers might be close OR just super random where you get the same due to RNG kicking in with lower luck.

TLDR - I do think luck plays a part in getting mature eggs but I'm not sure it's super noticeable to the casual player.

The biggest question for me is if getting an egg is 100% RNG where in the same person has the same exact chance every single time... so technically speaking could get back to back to back eggs if the RNG hit. Like if I start doing nests and get an egg on my 2nd nest; should I just log that toon out and use a different on? The 2 eggs I've gotten have been on 2 different toons & accounts so I haven't been able to see how many nests in between on the same toon..

I have experience that got 2 eggs in 3 Massive Nests(the first and the third), and got nothing above 400+ maps (Massive mixed with Grand) in the other days, all with the same Luck situation (average 2630, 4330 with statue and clock), so.....I think the RNG is very tricky and un testable

You've already gotten 2 mature eggs, but I've been using two accounts to farm dragon queen and dragon nests for almost two months and haven't gotten a single mature egg of any color. Now I have try converting my other secondary account (with 5000 luck points) into a paid account too and see how my luck goes from there. I already asked someone yesterday, and the reply I received was that free EJ accounts indeed cannot obtain any large reward items from official events; in other words, pure EJ accounts cannot obtain mature eggs.

Rocko · December 29

After picking over 500 chests not once did I see an egg or an effigy. I made a new character, transferred skills to it. I got an effigy after my third dungeon crawl. No luck at all on suit.

keven2002 · December 29

Rocko said:

After picking over 500 chests not once did I see an egg or an effigy. I made a new character, transferred skills to it. I got an effigy after my third dungeon crawl. No luck at all on suit.

That's the impossible thing about RNG... who knows if that would have spawned either way.

It does touch on something I have questioned before though; once a toon gets a drop do they need to wait X amount before getting another or is every single roll the same? Also along those lines; are some toons bugged where the system thinks that toon has recently received a drop?

We will never know without a Dev commenting in.

Urge · December 29

keven2002 said:

Also along those lines; are some toons bugged where the system thinks that toon has recently received a drop?

We will never know without a Dev commenting in.

I have a character ironically, that is my luck suit disco tamer that has never gotten much of anything in 10 years except the purple mare.

I have another mage with zero luck that seems to fart horseshoes and 4 leaf clovers.

I also have a crafter that seems to be bugged at 3/6 magery while another seems to be bugged in protection.

Anything is possible and expect the unexpected.

Mordeed · December 29

I got a tangle just before the event started, I wonder if that used up my luck quota ? I wonder if it is just a random loot roll or if there is linked account/character modifiers there too. who knows. But there are plenty saying they got a big egg with zero luck while others with 5k putting in lots of hrs and getting nothing.
Even someone on FB saying they got two in a week with very low luck.
I'm going to keep on at it but Ive resigned myself to the possibility of having to buy one when/if the prices drop enough

KroDuK · December 30

gggghhhh0987 said:

Yesterday I already converted this free EJ secondary account with 5000 luck points into a paid account.

This is how it's supposed to be with the actual culture.. the fear of losing an older EJ account so you sub it.

No free loader!! https://uo.com/2024/07/22/the-war-on-unapproved-3rd-party-programs/
"We wanted to give you an update on our next step to crush the unapproved automatic gameplay in UO. At this time these changes will only apply to EJ accounts."

KroDuK · December 30

Urge said:
while another seems to be bugged in protection.

I already experienced this "bug".. perma protection on my Sappire.. it was VERY usefull ^^

A few years later I had to get rid of it so I did page a GM; request to reset my active passive spell.
The GM was like this is weird! I was like, you bet!

gggghhhh0987 · December 30

KroDuK said:

gggghhhh0987 said:

Yesterday I already converted this free EJ secondary account with 5000 luck points into a paid account.

This is how it's supposed to be with the actual culture.. the fear of losing an older EJ account so you sub it.

No free loader!! https://uo.com/2024/07/22/the-war-on-unapproved-3rd-party-programs/
"We wanted to give you an update on our next step to crush the unapproved automatic gameplay in UO. At this time these changes will only apply to EJ accounts."

Have you finished spouting your utter nonsense? Throughout this journey, I've maintained at least one main paid account to paid account from created time and all time play manually by myself too. Both of my paid accounts (including this newly converted paid sub-account with 5000 luck points) are entirely manually switched and operated by me. I've never used any cheats and I hate people who use them. I've never installed any cheat software and don't know how to use it. Did you not read what I said earlier? I paid for the 5000 luck value sub-account because I just discovered that the EJ account can't farm mature eggs, not because I was afraid of being banned for using cheats!!!!! I bet you, along with (Grimbeard) and Pawain, are just automated game troll bots. Are you also copying those game trolls'(Grimbeard and Pawain) nonsense?

Does playing with two accounts necessarily mean someone is using cheats? Most people on the entire UO server have more than one ej account or multiple ej accounts to play too. According to your logic, does that mean everyone on the entire UO server is a cheater?

KroDuK · 1:25PM

Not everyone.. but the grand majority of PvPers and a good chunk of PvMers

You missing the obvious.. NO FREE LOADER! It was one rock multiple targets.

Why did you had to sub your account? Oh right.. cuz u assume you couldn't free load mature eggs!!
PS: Since you talk about that.. I like your main account bot name. With all my experience, I've never seen a legit user with such main account name. You are one of a kind!!

PS2: You didn't had to sub that ~8+yrs old alt account, if u don't cheat.. this is the thing.. all u had to do in the doubt (like I already told you) is dig on your main account sitting at the bank farming matriarch. But yeah..

Most treasure hunter I was seeing during the manifestation of evil were multibox archers or a tamer with pocket healer.

Edit: I also have 2 accounts. Your logic is flawed.

gggghhhh0987 said:
Most people on the entire UO server have more than one ej account or multiple ej accounts to play too. According to your logic, does that mean everyone on the entire UO server is a cheater?

I've never played on an EJ account.. as a legit CC user i'm not the main target, plus i'm no free loader.
But yeah, this was my point to McDougle.. what u just said.. You just can't see the obvious, while doubing down.

Ask around you in game.. how many legit CC users playing on multiple EJ accounts.. come back to me after.
That EJ stuff are just artificial numbers with other means to it.

PS3: more than one or multiple is the same.. you were in panic mode repeating the same stuff.

Be honest.. who's your main? We both know you have more than two accounts and this one ain't the alt you were referring to since u recently sub it and can only talk here with a sub one.

Mariah · 2:30PM

The purpose of this forum is to have informative and helpful discussions, not to throw rocks at other posters. Please stop attacking people who don't happen to agree with your views.

KroDuK · 2:34PM

@Mariah You are not the one to say those words.

What you meant is to troll other posters.. is the goal of this forum.. with a touch of disinformation.. specially if we look at your moderation history!!

Find me a single attack I did to this bot name account..
Unlike some elf imbuer (you), I can argue politely.

When i'm not polite.. i'm not arguing.. but putting trolls in their place.. cuz of the lack of GOOD moderation.

Rocko · 2:52PM

Thank you everyone who posted to this thread, constructively.

KroDuK · 2:59PM

KroDuK said:

@ ForeverFun @ Rocko The CM already told us if matriarch is affected by luck or not.
No need to assume stuff here.

No problem Rocko..

But, it kinda suck that I had to be the one to bring the receipt from the CM that pick those info from discord.

KroDuK said:

dara said:

I have got two eggs off matriarch, same acc diff toons. One an archer the other a mage. Zero luck on both

Note the last sentence.

edit: https://forum.uo.com/discussion/comment/125359/#Comment_125359

KroDuK · 3:04PM

Rocko said:

Grimbeard said:

KroDuK said:

Keven has data we don't have.

We need to tie number of post allowed to hours spent in game

lol, +1

meanwhile

*smh*

I was stating the fact someone was pulling conclusion on something that we have no data.. since this comment the same person is also asking for those data. (he did point out that fact multiple time since; we need those dev data)

I was being constructive AGAIN.. meanwhile..

Moderation should have chime in for those troll comments of urs and McDougle (if we trust Mariah words).. to avoid the point of attack (wich I did not).. but yeah.. Mariah player account is the first one to attack people when arguing or for free.. she can be unhinge, real fast.

The irony is exquisite.. on both end.

Mariah · 6:34PM

You are confusing me with the character Mariah on Chesapeake? I do not have a character named Mariah, and my main shard is Europa.

KroDuK · 6:41PM

I'm not.. Do you want me to say your player character name on this forum?

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