Why Are Paying Customers Being Silenced on Critical Topics?

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• Mariah Posts: 3,517Moderator

  July 16

  Apologies for allowing this thread to become so toxic. I was unable to get the internet connection I was hoping for from my holiday hotel.
• Lokea Posts: 241

  July 16 edited July 16

  creampie said:

  Nope you are totally wrong 

  
  No I'm not - nobody buys a house with the intent to sell it for less than they paid. 
  
  And if you're talking about gold sinks, if gold sinks worked, they would have put a lot more of them into the game over the last 20+ years (we'd see more high-value items being sold for large prices by NPCs for instance). But they don't work (outside of Siege and Mugen), because gold is constantly added to the game through monster loot, champ spawns, chests, and selling to NPCs.
  
  In the early 2000s around the time that house customization was released, the devs even mentioned the problem with gold sinks in an economy where gold is always being added on a daily basis - if you don't slow down or reduce the gold being added to the game, then it's meaningless. I remember bidding on New Magincia plots (I want to say some were 2,000gp and others were 10,000gp) and while it took a lot of gold out of the economy and around 10,000 or 15,000 players did the lottery system (the devs released a detailed analysis but I don't have it handy), ultimately they said that gold was eventually added back into the game as people continued to do the things that added gold to the game every day (monster loot, chests, etc.)
  
  And even if Atlantic has thousands of players, there are not prime 18x18s and keeps and castles falling every single day, which makes it sporadic, and what you are talking about would be coding a gold sink that applies to a single person at each IDOC who wins the bid.  On smaller shards, unless it's a really unique piece of land, people could just wait a few days and place, so the dev resources put into such a system would be a waste.
  
  Selling IDOCs to the highest bidder would do one thing though - keep prime real estate in the hands of certain people, and out of reach of a lot of players.
  
  If you want to go that route though of disposing of IDOC spots and call it a "gold sink",  do like New Magincia originally did, make the tickets cheap and unlimited.  You would get a lot of gold out of the system from a lot of people (instead of just one person at a time), and at least the regular players would feel like they have a small chance against the wealthiest players.
  
  
• keven2002 Posts: 2,523

  July 18

  Mariah said:

  Apologies for allowing this thread to become so toxic. I was unable to get the internet connection I was hoping for from my holiday hotel.

  No need to apologize Mariah; I think this sort of discussion (and having Kyronix respond) is actually good to allow and kind of shows customers aren't really being silenced at all unless they are breaking the rules.
  
  Enjoy your holiday!
• Seth Posts: 2,970

  1:03PM

  keven2002 said:

  Mariah said:

  Apologies for allowing this thread to become so toxic. I was unable to get the internet connection I was hoping for from my holiday hotel.

  No need to apologize Mariah; I think this sort of discussion (and having Kyronix respond) is actually good to allow and kind of shows customers aren't really being silenced at all unless they are breaking the rules.
  
  Enjoy your holiday!

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