Gives me NO incentive to log in

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• Grimbeard Posts: 3,031

  1:03AM

  firec said:

  Grimbeard said:

  Wrong is Wrong 

  
  And Despise is Despise.
  Destard is Destard.
  Shame is Shame.
  

  Finally some sanity in this discussion 
• popps Posts: 4,178

  7:47AM

  Cookie said:

  Lokea said:

  
  

  It's not the same thing - they are getting 4-5 times as many drops as those of us legitimately playing the game and following the rules.  And let's not pretend that a bunch of them aren't RMTers.
  
  

  
  

  And they are paying 4-5 times more.
  Therefore, as I said, relatively speaking, they are equal.
  
  I accept some maybe RMTers. However, it takes 2 to tango, RMTers would not exist if the demand was not there. The question has to be asked, why is the demand there?
  If you asked that question, and developed against it, you could reduce RMT. Whilst I am not an RMTer, this does not bother me also.
  Americans have a lot of money, they don't have so much time, they think nothing of paying to give themselves a leg-up or to progress through the parts of the game they do not find fun, to get to the parts they do find fun, it is their culture, the rest of the world knows this - some parts of the world need that money, and are prepared to put the work in to earn it. Do I begrudge either side of this equation? No.

  
  

  The problem that I see with games' Design that rely too heavily on "grinding" and time consuming in game activities, is that this might incentivate botting and scripting from some players to reduce the time one has to invest in the game to get items...

  
  

  And it can get worse if that game has Real Money Trades as possible because then, also the players who lack the knowledge (or do not want to bother with it) to BOT and script, would then further incentivate botting and scripting with those players who know how to and want to do it because they can sell what they get in the game from botting and scripting, thus with little to no investment of their time, for real money...

  
  

  Eventually, all of this botting and scripting creates a devaluation of the items being scripted and botted and, yet, still by game Design requiring a large investment of in game time thus making the getting of them from players who do not BOT or script, pointless... why spend countless of one's own time in the game when not botting or scripting but actually being "at the keyboard" (and thus spending one's own time...) when one can just buy them from botters and scripters for relatively a low cost ?

  
  

  And this, causes eventually in players who do not BOT nor script to loose interst in playing that game... if more and more in game activities become not worth engaging into because of botters and scripters, why bother playing that game at all then ?

  
  

  Personally, I tink that a game Design that both focuses on too much "grinding" and "time consuming activities" and permits the use of botting and scripting in that game, eventually backfires on the game and looses players to that game...

  
  

  One way to get rid of botters and scripters, could be focusing on a game design that would make the getting of those items need significant less time... this way, players would just play the game and get the items on their own without needing to turn to botters and scripters to get those items... eventually, for luck of buyers, botters and scripters would disappear, I would imagine...

  
  

  What do you think about it, @Kyronix ?

   
• Victim_Of_Siege Posts: 2,386

  8:47AM

  

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• Mariah Posts: 3,506Moderator

  10:31AM

  Inappropriate real life comparisons have been removed. This is a GAME forum, keep real life issues out of it please. 

  A quote from the Discord rules seems appropriate here:

  Do Not 

  • Discuss CS issues including, but not limited to, cheating accusations (witch hunting) and personal account/toon issues. Email dispute@ultimaonline.com is the way to go about this, spamming the Discord/creating drama and toxicity is not. If you have video/screenshots to back up your appeal please email them to dispute@ultimaonline.com,

  I believe this is the correct way to handle this issue, and for that reason, I am ending this thread.