[Development] The event The Rifted Crown is in urgent need of modification

Mene_Drachenfels · 7:21AM

@mis & @cookie - Kindergarden-Discussion??? Something we don't need

I remember it was first said when the event go live on TC that Blackrock and Crystalline Blackrock was not a good idea for crafting the bombs - because it's almost very rare to get this resources. It was suggested to use void core which you get easier and much more often by doing this Farmer Nash-Quest in Holy City for example. But that's a point we know for years - we complained about for years and none of dev's side ever listened - maybe till today? Perhaps they can see this now - the the best result i know about was getting blackrock cristaliline once from the gold elementals in Blackthorne's dungeon, but one day someone complained farming this elemental hunting and it was decided to close the dungeon - because of maybe this one-man-complaining - that was fact! If you kill posibilities to get need resources you have to live with that, that there's maybe no other change to get what you need. And what we urgently need - are a dev team that communicates with the experienced long players - and not with a pvp/rp whatever kindergarden

just my two cents

Mene

Lokea · 8:07AM

King said:

BTW, who in their mind had the idea of adding Paragon Phoenix???
RIP
They are 10x stronger than the skeleton dragons

LS had a Paragon healer sitting right outside of Ankh.

mis · 8:21AM

Mene_Drachenfels said:

@ mis & @ cookie - Kindergarden-Discussion??? Something we don't need

I understand, but some people need that dose and until they get it, they don't stop.

Mene_Drachenfels said:

we complained about for years and none of dev's side ever listened - maybe till today?

I honestly doubt it, yesterday I saw how on discord Kyronix was putting on a face icon with hearts to a sycophantic comment and saying other things and yet he ignored my comment that I told him it was urgent.

Such was his disinterest that he didn't even enter the feedback I posted (being the author he could see the list of all those who enter to see it).

After a certain person entered, to provoke and see the 0 interest from Kyronix in particular, I directly deleted the feedback, just as I want it to happen with this one.

I don't do any more feedback on this event until I see a change.

I am very disappointed with some parts of the event and certain people I don't want to name here (who are connected to this).

Cookie · 8:38AM

mis said:

Mene_Drachenfels said:

@ mis & @ cookie - Kindergarden-Discussion??? Something we don't need

I understand, but some people need that dose and until they get it, they don't stop.

Mene_Drachenfels said:

we complained about for years and none of dev's side ever listened - maybe till today?

I honestly doubt it, yesterday I saw how on discord Kyronix was putting on a face icon with hearts to a sycophantic comment and saying other things and yet he ignored my comment that I told him it was urgent.
Such was his disinterest that he didn't even enter the feedback I posted (being the author he could see the list of all those who enter to see it).
After a certain person entered, to provoke and see the 0 interest from Kyronix in particular, I directly deleted the feedback, just as I want it to happen with this one.
I don't do any more feedback on this event until I see a change.
I am very disappointed with some parts of the event and certain people I don't want to name here (who are connected to this).

Think about the players who like to do crafting.
Make friends with some, build your team with some crafters in, they are a valid playstyle like everyone else.
It's not all about what you want.

Cookie · 8:40AM

firec said:

I have a couple hundred thousand crystalline blackrock, I get it mining a lot and surprisingly to some - I enjoy mining, lumberjacking.

I think this event is crazy awesome, haven't been part of the walls yet but everything else has been fun - very pleasantly surprised.

I don't seem to have a stock pile of void orbs though, and I think I need them. Where do those come from?

A request. Can next event have some sort of running around cutting down special events trees for the crafters do build something with? A boat, maybe a giant wooden horse to breach the city, or even a wooden captcha structure that makes you identify which of these pictures contain a fire hydrant.

Make friends with this guy.

And seriously well done.

LilyGrace · 8:56AM

Mene_Drachenfels said:

@ mis & @ cookie - Kindergarden-Discussion??? Something we don't need

@ Kyronix @ Parallax
I remember it was first said when the event go live on TC that Blackrock and Crystalline Blackrock was not a good idea for crafting the bombs - because it's almost very rare to get this resources. It was suggested to use void core which you get easier and much more often by doing this Farmer Nash-Quest in Holy City for example. But that's a point we know for years - we complained about for years and none of dev's side ever listened - maybe till today? Perhaps they can see this now - the the best result i know about was getting blackrock cristaliline once from the gold elementals in Blackthorne's dungeon, but one day someone complained farming this elemental hunting and it was decided to close the dungeon - because of maybe this one-man-complaining - that was fact! If you kill posibilities to get need resources you have to live with that, that there's maybe no other change to get what you need. And what we urgently need - are a dev team that communicates with the experienced long players - and not with a pvp/rp whatever kindergarden

just my two cents
Mene

^

This

You need to beef up ways to get these resources. And players need to work together.

Despite the complainers, using crafters in this event adds a whole other layer of interest and fun for many. I'm sorry non crafters are bummed and instead of pitching in are standing around with their thumbs up their butts outside the walls of Mistas. Like it or not there are players who love building and crafting. It's bs for fighter classes to resent crafters finally being made useful.

That said, don't frustrate us all with making resources overly difficult to get. Put items on npc menus. Or give us ways to craft the blackrock items like we can the void orbs. That makes sense long term. In the meantime seriously beef up the drops of these items so crafters can get what they need and fighters will stop whining.

And for God's sake let us peel off a 500 count stacks of reags at the shops.

_Psycoder · 8:59AM

First of all it is quite a nasty thing to accuse people of being a cheater or using bots without a proof. I was a target of such abuse in the past, unfortunately I lost my calmness back then. This is why I think I am at my 13th account on the forums. I think accusing people of being a bot user without a proof should be a against the code of conduct of the forum for trolling. Not everyone that is asking for changes are using bots.

With that being said, we are on the 3rd day of the event. I suggest we wait at least a week before we ask the developers to make changes. It would be nice to see how things fall into place when people have more time to figure out things in the weekend.

I like the current event structure. I hope the devs do not change it. On the other hand, if this becomes a painful issue for everyone, then maybe they can add an NPC that destroys the doors at quarter speed. So players have a chance to collect the rubbles but fighters don't have to wait 2 hours for people to come online? Or they can add the required resources to the NPC for the event. Like enough materials for 10 bombs for 10 drops?

This is just my $0.02.

LilyGrace · 9:46AM

_Psycoder said:

First of all it is quite a nasty thing to accuse people of being a cheater or using bots without a proof. I was a target of such abuse in the past, unfortunately I lost my calmness back then. This is why I think I am at my 13th account on the forums. I think accusing people of being a bot user without a proof should be a against the code of conduct of the forum for trolling. Not everyone that is asking for changes are using bots.

With that being said, we are on the 3rd day of the event. I suggest we wait at least a week before we ask the developers to make changes. It would be nice to see how things fall into place when people have more time to figure out things in the weekend.

I like the current event structure. I hope the devs do not change it. On the other hand, if this becomes a painful issue for everyone, then maybe they can add an NPC that destroys the doors at quarter speed. So players have a chance to collect the rubbles but fighters don't have to wait 2 hours for people to come online?

This is just my $0.02.

It’s the waiting for crafters thing I don’t get. Why are these players who are waiting outside the walls not planning ahead? Why don’t they speak up in chat and call out for crafters ahead of time?

Fighters, talk in chat. Ask crafters to make you the barrels of explosives, the siege kits and the ammo kits. Buy the items from them. Trade for them. Offer resources.

Use vendor search and see if crafters are selling the kits. Plan ahead, stock up. Blow up the walls yourselves and get a bunch of drops in the process. Honestly you’re missing out not doing this.

mis · 1:04PM

LilyGrace said:

It’s the waiting for crafters thing I don’t get. Why are these players who are waiting outside the walls not planning ahead? Why don’t they speak up in chat and call out for crafters ahead of time?

Fighters, talk in chat. Ask crafters to make you the barrels of explosives, the siege kits and the ammo kits. Buy the items from them. Trade for them. Offer resources.

Use vendor search and see if crafters are selling the kits. Plan ahead, stock up. Blow up the walls yourselves and get a bunch of drops in the process. Honestly you’re missing out not doing this.

I don't know about you, but in Europe there are moments of standstill.

It wasn't until 14:53 that Petra arrived to break the wall with explosives.

I took the screenshot at 14:40, but there were already players standing there, who subsequently left. Which means that people were already waiting, possibly for 20 minutes.

I notified by chat and as I said, it wasn't until 14:53 that the attack on the gates started

This on day 2, when there is no interest from the crafters who have the ingredients, end of the event.

Do you want crafters to be used? Perfect, let me buy the ingredients from an NPC and I'll make it (if that's the goal, let them use the crafter).

I don't want to pay vendor search speculators, the goal is to use crafter, ok, let me buy a set of ingredients from an NPC, not from speculators.

Keep it simple and think for everyone.

mis · 1:25PM

I add:

Although Nelly throwing balls with the catapult at the door, for some reason he left, as there was no one else, the event was paralysed without being able to pass to the city.

15:22 I leave because I have to go and the event without crafter with ingredients to continue.

End of the event. Game Over.

As a song by Héroes del Silencio says “And how easy it is to open your mouth so wide to give your opinion”.

Pawain · 2:02PM

@mis so you have multiple accounts but not one crafter out 14 + toons? Interesting.

Grimbeard · 2:10PM

mis said:

I add:
Although Nelly throwing balls with the catapult at the door, for some reason he left, as there was no one else, the event was paralysed without being able to pass to the city.
15:22 I leave because I have to go and the event without crafter with ingredients to continue.
End of the event. Game Over.

As a song by Héroes del Silencio says “And how easy it is to open your mouth so wide to give your opinion”.

Stop crying you embarrasse the avatar it's day three of no off shard folks on Baja and we are on phase four at 7 am PST

mis · 2:24PM

Grimbeard said:

Stop crying you embarrasse the avatar it's day three of no off shard folks on Baja and we are on phase four at 7 am PST

This is Europe, what happens on the 2nd.

And for your information, it's not crying, it's responding to a person who gives an opinion without having a clue, like you.

Grimbeard · 2:30PM

mis said:

Grimbeard said:

Stop crying you embarrasse the avatar it's day three of no off shard folks on Baja and we are on phase four at 7 am PST

This is Europe, what happens on the 2nd.
And for your information, it's not crying, it's responding to a person who gives an opinion without having a clue, like you.

I'm sorry the pictures you posted hoping to gather support only make you and your shard look entitled

mis · 2:47PM

Grimbeard said:

I'm sorry the pictures you posted hoping to gather support only make you and your shard look entitled

You didn't express yourself well or the translator doesn't translate it well.

If a change is made it benefits other shards, not just Europa. You want crafter to be used? perfect, ingredients you can buy from an NPC or you can with an alchemist make blast potions for example.

And of course, I post pics from Europe because that's where I am, I'm not in another shard.

But as you can read on page 1, I'm not the only one reporting problems, in sparsely populated shards there are also problems.

It is very comfortable to say that everything goes smoothly when you are in a shard where for whatever reasons, be it population and a large amount of ingredients, the crafting part is taken care of.

But in Europe there is a lack, happened this morning too, although I haven't taken pictures, so it's not an isolated case, it's a lot of times already.

But this event was developed for minorities or majorities, that's the question, because not all shards have the same number of players.

Dapeekas · 2:52PM

Mis, I think the people here are confused as to why you are not participating in the crafting portion of the event? If you have two accounts, even with one as an EJ account, you don't have a single crafting character? That's 8 characters and all fighters/mages/rouges?
Or are you saying that you do not like crafting and don't want to do it? So you are suggesting the entire event concept be changed because you and a handful of others don't like to craft. Meanwhile, many crafters are happy to be included.
I think in the end if you want to do the fighting portion you should invest in creating a crafting character and collecting some resources to bust open the gates yourself OR become friendly with your Shards crafters and ask them how you can help them.

LilyGrace · 2:53PM

mis said:

LilyGrace said:

It’s the waiting for crafters thing I don’t get. Why are these players who are waiting outside the walls not planning ahead? Why don’t they speak up in chat and call out for crafters ahead of time?

Fighters, talk in chat. Ask crafters to make you the barrels of explosives, the siege kits and the ammo kits. Buy the items from them. Trade for them. Offer resources.

Use vendor search and see if crafters are selling the kits. Plan ahead, stock up. Blow up the walls yourselves and get a bunch of drops in the process. Honestly you’re missing out not doing this.

I don't know about you, but in Europe there are moments of standstill.
It wasn't until 14:53 that Petra arrived to break the wall with explosives.

I took the screenshot at 14:40, but there were already players standing there, who subsequently left. Which means that people were already waiting, possibly for 20 minutes.

I notified by chat and as I said, it wasn't until 14:53 that the attack on the gates started

This on day 2, when there is no interest from the crafters who have the ingredients, end of the event.
Do you want crafters to be used? Perfect, let me buy the ingredients from an NPC and I'll make it (if that's the goal, let them use the crafter).
I don't want to pay vendor search speculators, the goal is to use crafter, ok, let me buy a set of ingredients from an NPC, not from speculators.
Keep it simple and think for everyone.

I’m at a loss as to what to say that your whole shard has to depend on one crafter that didn’t finish the job. Not a soul on the shard could pick up where he left off?

If the pics you’re showing are all different players waiting to get in, are you saying none of them have a crafter that can make the kits?

Is anyone using chat to talk to crafters and order the kits that you could use yourself to knock down the walls?

Do you not have a crafter yourself that could make and stockpile the kits so you can use them for yourself and get drops at the same time?

I'm not trying to give you a hard time but it does seem silly that you can’t get these tasks accomplished on your shard. I’ve soloed blowing up the walls to get into the city 3 times now. My crafter makes what I need and I pass the explosives and kits to my stealthy rogue. If someone else is there too they take out the spawn at the first two walls.

I can’t take out a he mobs but I can get fighters where they want to go and I make out with drops for doing so. Then I can stealth in and work on finding chests. I’d like to see a little more player cooperation when it comes to helping a crafter get resources but such is life.

Like I said before, players are missing out by not working a crafter for this event at least once in awhile. The drops for taking out the walls are pretty darned good.

mis · 2:54PM

Pawain said:

@ mis so you have multiple accounts but not one crafter out 14 + toons? Interesting.

I don't know where you get that I have a lot of accounts, because the only information I said is that I was with two accounts in the event, a tamer and the warrior.

Sure, I have crafter, but I already explained my point of view (read above).

LilyGrace · 2:56PM

mis said:

Pawain said:

@ mis so you have multiple accounts but not one crafter out 14 + toons? Interesting.

I don't know where you get that I have a lot of accounts, because the only information I said is that I was with two accounts in the event, a tamer and the warrior.
Sure, I have crafter, but I already explained my point of view (read above).

I missed where you said you have a crafter. I give up. I’m sorry I wasted my time to even post now that I know that.

Dapeekas · 2:59PM

LilyGrace said:

mis said:

Pawain said:

@ mis so you have multiple accounts but not one crafter out 14 + toons? Interesting.

I don't know where you get that I have a lot of accounts, because the only information I said is that I was with two accounts in the event, a tamer and the warrior.
Sure, I have crafter, but I already explained my point of view (read above).

I missed where you said you have a crafter. I give up. I’m sorry I wasted my time to even post now that I know that.

I feel the same Lily. This is just stubbornness at this point.

Larisa · 3:01PM

The thing is....it was on Test Center for awhile...then on Origin for...how long? That's the time you get on, look to see what ingredients you need and gather them before it goes live. Take advantage!

Say HEY GUYS! We need X amount of these ingredients...lets get as much as we can before it goes live!

Yeah it takes a lot, but I know you have to have crafters on your shard, work together!

mis · 3:04PM

LilyGrace said:

I missed where you said you have a crafter. I give up. I’m sorry I wasted my time to even post now that I know that.

You didn't miss, I didn't write it previously so you didn't have to know if I had or not, I just said it in response to a comment.

You didn't waste time, you gained time for the future by learning a great lesson.

Grimbeard · 3:14PM

mis said:

Grimbeard said:

I'm sorry the pictures you posted hoping to gather support only make you and your shard look entitled

You didn't express yourself well or the translator doesn't translate it well.
If a change is made it benefits other shards, not just Europa. You want crafter to be used? perfect, ingredients you can buy from an NPC or you can with an alchemist make blast potions for example.
And of course, I post pics from Europe because that's where I am, I'm not in another shard.

But as you can read on page 1, I'm not the only one reporting problems, in sparsely populated shards there are also problems.

It is very comfortable to say that everything goes smoothly when you are in a shard where for whatever reasons, be it population and a large amount of ingredients, the crafting part is taken care of.
But in Europe there is a lack, happened this morning too, although I haven't taken pictures, so it's not an isolated case, it's a lot of times already.
But this event was developed for minorities or majorities, that's the question, because not all shards have the same number of players.

Then make a crafter? You had at least 10 day with knowledge to prepare crying time over go kill shadow elementals go mine go kill the void creatures in ter mur if I recall your native language is Spanish?

mis · 3:15PM

LilyGrace said:

I’m at a loss as to what to say that your whole shard has to depend on one crafter that didn’t finish the job. Not a soul on the shard could pick up where he left off?

You saw that no one was there. They are not just words, they are deeds (photos).

LilyGrace said:

If the pics you’re showing are all different players waiting to get in, are you saying none of them have a crafter that can make the kits?

Yes, and many players as you could see outside.

I don't know if, apart from Petra/Nelly, the rest of them had a crafter.

And as you could see, it was only one person who did all that and it couldn't even be finished because he left.

I hope it is finally understood, that not all shards are the same and not all players are the same.

There are the facts.

Therefore, the event does not work equally in all shards; what may be a success in some shards is a complete failure in others.

Petra_Fyde · 3:19PM

To correct a few misunderstandings.
I brought bombs to knock down the first wall. Then I swapped chars. I forgot about the wall at the other end of the bridge, so I brought my first character back

Then I brought my crafter to operate the catapult. When the catapult collapsed I didn't have another deployment kit and I was almost out of ammunition kits, plus my pet had died, and I needed it to hold the kits, as they're rather heavy.
I went home, sorted all that out, then returned to finish knocking down the gates. Also I wasn't the only person operating a catapult.

I have a squirrel mailbox at my castle, if any impatient warrior would like to throw a few crystalline blackrock and void orbs in it, I'd be happy to use them to make more supplies.

mis · 3:27PM

Grimbeard said:

Then make a crafter? You had at least 10 day with knowledge to prepare crying time over go kill shadow elementals go mine go kill the void creatures in ter mur if I recall your native language is Spanish?

I find it funny to read you, how you focus on it in the singular when clearly it is not something exclusive, but, as you can see in the images, there are many who are in the same situation, blocked without advancing.

Everyone will have their own reasons why they don't go for those ingredients.

I've already said mine and I've even exposed them in discord.

I see very false that a door can be broken only with crafting explosives and does not accept explosions of mage or blows of a weapon, and I add, nor potions of great explosion.

Just because of that falsehood, I won't collect a single ingredient.

In any case, if it is stated as it must be a physical explosion of an item created by a crafter, if it accepts blast / big blast potions or the ingredients were freely available bought from an NPC, then yes I use my crafter, not before.

Why don't the other players who are waiting go and look for ingredients? I don't know and honestly, I don't care what the reason is, everyone will have their own.

Spanish, but I guarantee that even speaking the same language we wouldn't understand each other, just reading your way of thinking is something that is clear to me.

mis · 3:30PM

Petra_Fyde said:

To correct a few misunderstandings.
I brought bombs to knock down the first wall. Then I swapped chars. I forgot about the wall at the other end of the bridge, so I brought my first character back

Then I brought my crafter to operate the catapult. When the catapult collapsed I didn't have another deployment kit and I was almost out of ammunition kits, plus my pet had died, and I needed it to hold the kits, as they're rather heavy.
I went home, sorted all that out, then returned to finish knocking down the gates. Also I wasn't the only person operating a catapult.

I have a squirrel mailbox at my castle, if any impatient warrior would like to throw a few crystalline blackrock and void orbs in it, I'd be happy to use them to make more supplies.

Thank you Petra for your help and generosity to others.

Grimbeard · 3:37PM

mis said:

Grimbeard said:

Then make a crafter? You had at least 10 day with knowledge to prepare crying time over go kill shadow elementals go mine go kill the void creatures in ter mur if I recall your native language is Spanish?

I find it funny to read you, how you focus on it in the singular when clearly it is not something exclusive, but, as you can see in the images, there are many who are in the same situation, blocked without advancing.
Everyone will have their own reasons why they don't go for those ingredients.
I've already said mine and I've even exposed them in discord.
I see very false that a door can be broken only with crafting explosives and does not accept explosions of mage or blows of a weapon, and I add, nor potions of great explosion.

Just because of that falsehood, I won't collect a single ingredient.

In any case, if it is stated as it must be a physical explosion of an item created by a crafter, if it accepts blast / big blast potions or the ingredients were freely available bought from an NPC, then yes I use my crafter, not before.

Why don't the other players who are waiting go and look for ingredients? I don't know and honestly, I don't care what the reason is, everyone will have their own.

Spanish, but I guarantee that even speaking the same language we wouldn't understand each other, just reading your way of thinking is something that is clear to me.

Well you go ahead and pout see how many drops you get

LilyGrace · 3:43PM

It takes 4 kegs of bombs to get through the first two walls. Two kegs on each wall. I don’t know if it matters but I throw the bombs at the same panel in the wall the whole time. I can carry 4 kegs no problem.

The catapult kits and ammo are heavy as you say, Petra. After I knock down the first two walls I head home, drop off the loot and grab one siege kit and five ammo kits. I return and fire away.

Once I’ve burned through 5 ammo crates, I go home again, drop off loot, grab another siege kit and five more ammo crates.

Two of the times I took out the city wall it took 2 siege kits and 10 ammo kits to breech the wall.

This morning it took 3 siege kits and 15 ammo kits. I’d like to speak to the management about this.

I think that’s overkill.

NikonUS · 4:16PM

@mis so. you are one of the people that talk BS all the time about scripts and this and that but looking at your screenshot, that is a nice picture of the O client. so I guess everyone really use.

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