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  • KroDuKKroDuK Posts: 393
    edited October 30
    that was me, ive spawned 4 bosses so far on Europa and will always open gates for anyone wanting to join in
    gg, but keep in mind the OP is on ATL.. this seems to be a shit show.. cheaters and scripter auto aiming when he can barely move cuz of the lag, and things die instant.

    Pretty sure if u were hunting on ATL and missing on the manifestation cuz of multibox scripters.. u'd do your best to keep low profile and not open gates and praying the gods.. when in fact these cheaters got automated coordinates on top of auto aim free loot on your effort.

    Overall, I can see why someone with no shield transfer would be piss on ATL for this event.. personally I'm still salty CC need to use a compass made with rock and water and other personal reason (a me thing) -.-
    So rather than recognise the effort the botters went to, to set all that up - for the benefit of the players, to help get certain items, something you could never be bothered to do, you would rather drag people backwards to your neanderthal world?
    -UO official forums, brought to you by BoardSword studio
  • FenriswolfFenriswolf Posts: 67
    edited October 30
    you just highlighted why ill never play on Atlantic :-) but they also arent getting any of the nice deco from the chests
  • KroDuKKroDuK Posts: 393
    edited October 30
    Without ATL goal longterm.. I would have never return on UO (ghost botted town on legends)

    A living shard is the best, once u get your thing straight.

    @Fenriswolf did you have the balls to dbl click one of those potion?
    And how much for the white shield?  :o
    So rather than recognise the effort the botters went to, to set all that up - for the benefit of the players, to help get certain items, something you could never be bothered to do, you would rather drag people backwards to your neanderthal world?
    -UO official forums, brought to you by BoardSword studio
  • Lord_NythraxLord_Nythrax Posts: 395
    edited October 30
    @ Lord_Nythrax I saw at least one treasure hunter on Europa ask for volunteers to help with the spawn on his Trove map. You could offer to help with spawn? You don't have to be a treasure hunter to help kill the guardians any more than you are forced to sit at the bank with your glass of wine.

    Oh no, I'm washing my hands of trying to participate in this trash. I'm sure you and your dead shard are having just the most precious little time, but on Atlantic I still literally do not even know what the boss looks like because it materializes in the middle of a crowd and gets vaporized by script-targeters the instant it becomes vulnerable. Following some tmapper around smacking his little blood elementals for him would be a pretty crap excuse for an event anyway. If I thought that sounded fun I'd have already been doing it.

    Riner said:
    So take part or don’t but for gods sake stop whining.

    How about I post whatever I want and you just learn to cope with it?
  • FenriswolfFenriswolf Posts: 67
    KroDuK said:
    Without ATL goal longterm.. I would have never return on UO (ghost botted town on legends)

    A living shard is the best, once u get your thing straight.

    @ Fenriswolf did you have the balls to dbl click one of those potion?
    And how much for the white shield?  :o
    Europa is lively enough.

    Didnt realise you could click on the potions what do they do? Ill have plenty more of the shields by the end of the event will probably give them away. Already given away 2 bows
  • KroDuKKroDuK Posts: 393
    edited October 30
    no idea if it does anything. I didn't had the balls to dbl click it.. it look like a satanical ceremonial item mine is a cursed cruet of despair.. i'm worried my toon could be eternally depress.

    I was just assuming it's an item not a deco, since it came from the satchel. some type of beuverage that does something specific.

    On legends except luna bank or my house.. i've seen & talk to one dude doing a spawn.. cross path with 3-4 person since june.. but i've seen multiple time the same 10 multi-box bots farming suff like oni & ararat.. and i'm seeing daily the same 4 bots on the heartwood grind 16/7.
    So rather than recognise the effort the botters went to, to set all that up - for the benefit of the players, to help get certain items, something you could never be bothered to do, you would rather drag people backwards to your neanderthal world?
    -UO official forums, brought to you by BoardSword studio
  • PawainPawain Posts: 9,985
    KroDuK said:
    @ KroDuK I'm really tired of reading your nasty comments about Boardsword. Learn the name of the damn company! it's BROADSWORD. B R O A D not B O A R D. 
    The elf imbuer is pissed! I wonder why?  <3

    PS: mocking dyslexia ain't cool  :*
    Did you make a gargoyle swordsman also?  You can read the strengths and weaknesses of each race.
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • KroDuKKroDuK Posts: 393
    Pawain said:
    Did you make a gargoyle swordsman also?  You can read the strengths and weaknesses of each race.
    Reading is for idiot  o:)
    So rather than recognise the effort the botters went to, to set all that up - for the benefit of the players, to help get certain items, something you could never be bothered to do, you would rather drag people backwards to your neanderthal world?
    -UO official forums, brought to you by BoardSword studio
  • PlayerSkillFTWPlayerSkillFTW Posts: 617
    Pawain said:
    KroDuK said:

    Did you make a gargoyle swordsman also?  You can read the strengths and weaknesses of each race.
    My first Gargoyle was a Swordsman :D . That Stygian Abyss cover art of the Gargoyle Swordsman was cool looking. But yeah, Garg Melee ended up sucking hard, not enough good weapon options, no Swampy Armor, etc. Turned him into a Thrower.

    I think all the T-Mappers that contributed to spawning the boss, should instantly receive looting rights, and a chance at a drop (the more points they contributed to spawning, the higher the chance), no matter where they're at. That would encourage people to actually do T-Maps, and feed the shard more Manifestations of Evil.
  • FenriswolfFenriswolf Posts: 67
    yea i didnt get loot rights off the last boss, pretty sucky wasting all the maps for no main rewards
  • looploop Posts: 390
    If we need to recycle content, next time can we just do a champ spawn as the boss content please? The whole champ spawn deal is more predictable and fair than the pseudo-Krampus.

    The extra goodies for treasure hunting and taming are great, but tying the boss to t-maps is pretty lame.
  • FenriswolfFenriswolf Posts: 67
    oooo
  • KroDuKKroDuK Posts: 393
    Fenriswolf said:
    oooo
    They saying size does not matter.. but c'mon bro hide that thing!  :p
    So rather than recognise the effort the botters went to, to set all that up - for the benefit of the players, to help get certain items, something you could never be bothered to do, you would rather drag people backwards to your neanderthal world?
    -UO official forums, brought to you by BoardSword studio
  • FenriswolfFenriswolf Posts: 67
    edited October 31
    just realised one of them is 2 slot already, bit disappointing as stats arent much better than the 1 slot one. But i did manage to just get a 3 slot Dragonwolf out of a trove chest :-)
  • KroDuKKroDuK Posts: 393
    edited October 31
    never knew of their existence.. they look great.. then I've seen the repond slayer stuff.. still gonna keep that in mind for PvE.. a personal cool looking WereWolf assistant.

    Something similar but a bear could be dope.. not much PvPer running around with a bear slayer tali or a personal vampire (flapping wings/big bat form) for the same PvP reasoning.
    So rather than recognise the effort the botters went to, to set all that up - for the benefit of the players, to help get certain items, something you could never be bothered to do, you would rather drag people backwards to your neanderthal world?
    -UO official forums, brought to you by BoardSword studio
  • Lord_NythraxLord_Nythrax Posts: 395
    loop said:
    If we need to recycle content, next time can we just do a champ spawn as the boss content please? The whole champ spawn deal is more predictable and fair than the pseudo-Krampus.

    The extra goodies for treasure hunting and taming are great, but tying the boss to t-maps is pretty lame.

    It should have come from killing butchers and grimms, and popped somewhere predictable as a full champ spawn. Boss HP scaled higher the faster it was spawned, so it can stand up to a full Atlantic gank for at least a minute or two.

    I think the stupid sextant coordinate running is an attempt to thwart bots, but inconveniencing literally everyone in order to also inconvenience botters is cutting off your nose to spite your face. Like maybe just ban people who stand in one place openly botting 24/7, is that too much to ask?
  • PawainPawain Posts: 9,985
    Ya I'm so inconvenienced by them not sending the gate to the boss right next to me.  Sometimes I have to walk around and look for the gate.
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • FenriswolfFenriswolf Posts: 67
    KroDuK said:
    never knew of their existence.. they look great.. then I've seen the repond slayer stuff.. still gonna keep that in mind for PvE.. a personal cool looking WereWolf assistant.

    Something similar but a bear could be dope.. not much PvPer running around with a bear slayer tali or a personal vampire (flapping wings/big bat form) for the same PvP reasoning.
    am training him up atm, he is pretty solid. He also appears to be poison resistant? It doesnt note that on UO CAH?
  • FenriswolfFenriswolf Posts: 67
    what they could do is drop a map like the vendor maps into all Thunters packs when the boss spawns...
  • Lord_NythraxLord_Nythrax Posts: 395
    Pawain said:
    Ya I'm so inconvenienced by them not sending the gate to the boss right next to me.  Sometimes I have to walk around and look for the gate.

    This but unironically.

    They can't even put the spawns at fixed locations people know, otherwise bots would just recall there. No, they have to have town criers yelling out sextant coordinates, sometimes even without any reference to landmarks. What a load of crap.

    "Oh but if you attach this addon and then go to this website for reference..."

    Even if I do all that crap all I get is to see the boss get insta-deleted by a bunch of script-targeters, so how about I go do something fun instead, and then come blow up the forum?

    Working at a retirement flophouse for elderly MMOs has to be pretty much the bottom rung of the game dev industry and it really shows in the quality of development we get. They could just pick a random boss and slap a couple new items on it once every four to six months and we'd be better off.
  • KroDuKKroDuK Posts: 393
    edited October 31

    "Oh but if you attach this addon and then go to this website for reference..."

    For what it's worth i've been using this website suggested by fenris: https://uo.com/wiki/ultima-online-wiki/world/facet-maps/

    I mean yes, it feel like the dev team hates legit CC users.. but it was very helpful..
    One thing i'm lost tho.. maybe i've read to fast the NPC was yelling 2 set of coordinates 23o 23n the second was like 41o 23n.. the second one had a yellow manifestation that just despawn on me  :s


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    So rather than recognise the effort the botters went to, to set all that up - for the benefit of the players, to help get certain items, something you could never be bothered to do, you would rather drag people backwards to your neanderthal world?
    -UO official forums, brought to you by BoardSword studio
  • Lord_NythraxLord_Nythrax Posts: 395
    There are people gating often enough on Atlantic that it isn't really an issue, at least at the times I've been paying attention. But I'm on day two of having absolutely no idea what this boss even looks like. There's a crowd of reapers and summons, some red names appear and everything lags, and a minute later everyone recalls out.

    Is there a non-cheating way to make a "target nearest enemy" macro that doesn't target players energy vortexes and shit?

    In what possible way is this nonsense better than just attaching these items to (insert your favorite piece of content no one does) and letting people get them like that?
  • PawainPawain Posts: 9,985
    The boss is the most huge boss ever.  Get there earlier and he is yellow and can't be attacked for 5 mins.  Grab the bar then.
    Focus on what you can do, not what you can't.
  • looploop Posts: 390
    edited November 1
    Atlantic experiences a horrendous amount of lag when the boss spawns, and dragging the healthbar from the model, despite how big the boss is, doesn't work very well (at least on EC). For example, you can't drag from its wings. I suspect you have to drag more from the center, but it's frustrating to do so because there are so many players which conflict with the dragging. Additionally, I used the Murderer mobile healthbar dockspot, and the boss doesn't show up. I also tried to set a filter on the dockspot, and it also doesn't show up.

    My experience has been that the boss spawns, and I spend several frustrating seconds tabbing through targets until I get to the boss. I then volley as much as I can on my mystic thrower (I want the soul glaive). The boss dies in less than 30 seconds, and I don't get looting rights despite doing several hundred points of damage.

    I think it's great that the event plays better on less populated shards, but most players are on Atlantic, and the experience and design of this event are really just awful.

    It's frustrating to me that free shards have a better architecture and higher quality content. They have better servers. They have better clients. They can support higher numbers of concurrent players (at least one popular shard has thousands of players). Broadsword could spend a year just fixing bugs, and it would engender better faith than re-skinning content with overpowered rewards, which I only feel compelled to do because who knows when you're ever gonna see the gear again. But this is all literally just candy and popcorn while they focus on New Legacy and push addicts to buy things from the store with these seasonal events.
  • Lord_NythraxLord_Nythrax Posts: 395
    Pawain said:
    The boss is the most huge boss ever.  Get there earlier and he is yellow and can't be attacked for 5 mins.  Grab the bar then.

    Do you understand that you can show up on Atlantic, watch the entire thing, and walk away with absolutely no idea what the boss sprite even looks like? Stop talking about what you and the other four people on LS do like it's the least bit relevant.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 1,538
    KroDuK said:
    Pawain said:
    Did you make a gargoyle swordsman also?  You can read the strengths and weaknesses of each race.
    Reading is for idiot  o:)

    So is writing in your case. :)

    Thank you, I think I've just won my day. :)
  • KroDuKKroDuK Posts: 393
    edited November 1
    It's called irony.. you know what is not?

    Cookie said:
    KroDuK said:
    Pawain said:
    Did you make a gargoyle swordsman also?  You can read the strengths and weaknesses of each race.
    Reading is for idiot  o:)

    So is writing in your case. :)

    Thank you, I think I've just won my day. :)
    You saying that.... while not being able to quote correctly.. the frick did u do? It takes a certain talent that I do not possess, doing what u just did  :D
    So rather than recognise the effort the botters went to, to set all that up - for the benefit of the players, to help get certain items, something you could never be bothered to do, you would rather drag people backwards to your neanderthal world?
    -UO official forums, brought to you by BoardSword studio
  • CookieCookie Posts: 1,538
    Lord_Nythrax said:
    Pawain said:
    The boss is the most huge boss ever.  Get there earlier and he is yellow and can't be attacked for 5 mins.  Grab the bar then.

    Do you understand that you can show up on Atlantic, watch the entire thing, and walk away with absolutely no idea what the boss sprite even looks like? Stop talking about what you and the other four people on LS do like it's the least bit relevant.
    Players on Atlantic do have a point, it is like this for you.

    But the thing is also, it is your choice, you should spread out to the other shards, you've all chosen to be there, and do this to yourselves, stop complaining about it.
    If the mechanics are working on 25 other shards, there is a bit of a clue for you.


    In terms of the event itself - yes, the mechanics are not as good as I would have hoped for in general.
    There is a disconnect between the treasure hunters completing the maps, and the people killing the boss and getting the rewards. It is hard to get to the boss fast enough.
    I am not a fan of events at a set random time, that require the playerbase to be sat around watching like hawks, then running in, and quite often ending up disappointed.

    I prefer events where you work for your rewards, not rely on luck. I prefer no disconnect. I prefer to be able to log on, and play in my own time, at my own pace, when I am able, not to be a slave to a 2 minute blink and you miss it event.

    The one great decision about all of this, that is probably the only thing that can redeem all of this, is that the drops are not shard-bound. Ok, this event may go very badly for most players, but at least we will be able to shard trade, and balance out obtaining the drops we will want. It really would make sense to go to a quieter shard, and get the drops there, in that sense, the Devs are forcing a certain amount of game balancing.

  • KroDuKKroDuK Posts: 393
    edited November 1
    Cookie said:

    I prefer events where you work for your rewards
    Ok my bad.. u clearly can do irony.. even if it's unintentional.  :D

    For anyone new wondering Cookie is going after Nythrax here.. cuz Nythrax did denounce cheaters like biscuit using auto aim script/illegal client. (he's part of the problem for this event)

    Just read my signature.. this is what Cookie thinks of the game under BS management.
    So rather than recognise the effort the botters went to, to set all that up - for the benefit of the players, to help get certain items, something you could never be bothered to do, you would rather drag people backwards to your neanderthal world?
    -UO official forums, brought to you by BoardSword studio
  • CookieCookie Posts: 1,538
    edited November 1
    KroDuK said:
    Cookie said:

    I prefer events where you work for your rewards
    Ok my bad.. u clearly can do irony.. even if it's unintentional.  :D

    For anyone new wondering Cookie is going after Nythrax here.. cuz Nythrax did denounce cheaters like biscuit using auto aim script/illegal client. (he's part of the problem for this event)

    Just read my signature.. this is what Cookie thinks of the game under BS management.
    So for the record, I am not going after Nythrax, I agree with him on a lot of things, I agree with quite a few of his points re this event.
    I do think he tends to go overboard on the negativity. So I am pointing out, he does have options, he chose to be where he is.
    I think the Devs may get some things wrong, but in general, I know they are human, I am not having a go at them.
    Where I have what I think are good ideas, I try and put them forwards, I hope they get looked at, and if they fit, added. Otherwise, I keep on trying.

    The truth is, in our Discord, I am raging, I am getting pissed off at this event, but we carry on - the guild help me get through this :)

    I love the fact you quoted me in your signature, I get quoted a lot, it makes me laugh, especially as I was trolling you :)

    I do believe in being transparent, it helps people know where I am coming from, so my "agenda" can be taken into account. Very often, you get no names, putting forwards poor suggestions, purely because they have an agenda to make money, or to profit from game mechanics - but they do not disclose who they are, or what their agenda is.
    I am purely playing, my motivation is to have fun, I may not be doing everything 100% as the Devs would like me to, but If I am not, I try and explain why to them.
    I am a pvper, I play in Felucca, I play in a team where I can. I do not think many of us have a voice, so I try to be one of those voices.
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